Here is the table draw copied from wsop.com 7/1/2012 12:28:36 PM PST (about 1 hours and 25 minutes ago) The Table Draw Table 407 Seat Player 1 Dan Shak 2 Mikhail Smirnov 3 John Morgan 4 Bobby Baldwin 5 Phil Galfond 6 Roland De Wolfe 7 Eugene Katchalov 8 Tom Dwan Table 401 Seat Player 1 Bill Perkins 2 Frederique Banjout 3 Andrew Robl 4 Jens Kyllönen 5 Justin Smith 6 Brian Rast 7 Sam Trickett 8 Jonathan Duhamel Table 409 Seat Player 1 Seng Chen Yong 2 Jason Mercier 3 Talal Shakerchi 4 Noah Schwartz 5 Gus Hansen 6 Paul Newey 7 David Einhorn 8 Bertrand "ElkY" Grosspellier Table 411 Seat Player 1 Wei Seng Phua 2 Michael Mizrachi 3 Mike Sexton 4 Bob Bright 5 Phil Hellmuth 6 Daniel Negreanu 7 Rick Salomon 8 Chamath Palihapitiya Table 381 Seat Player 1 Haralabos Voulgaris 2 Ilya Bulychev 3 Philipp Gruissem 4 Cary Katz 5 Giovanni Guarascio 6 Tobias Reinkemeier 7 Phil Ruffin 8 Guy Laliberté Table 391 Seat Player 1 Vivek Rajkumar 2 Tom Marchese 3 Antonio Esfandiari 4 Nick Schulman 5 Ben Lamb 6 Brandon Steven 7 Phil Ivey 8 Greg Hogg
Apparently Russian semi-pro Mikhail Smirnoff folded quad 8s face-up to a river shove from businessman John Morgan in the big drop earlier today. It could be either the worst or the best fold in the history of poker. Hopefully when it's all over Morgan will reveal what he held and we'll know which.
I've copied and pasted this from another forum;
According to Smirnov, the action started with Tom Dwan opening to 32,000. Smirnov called from the small blind with the 88, and businessman John Morgan called from the big blind.
The flop fell Js8c7s. Smirnov bet 50,000, Morgan called quickly, and Dwan folded.
The 8s hit the turn. Smirnov bet 200,000. Morgan called instantly.
Smirnov said Morgan looked very excited on the turn.
The Ks landed on the river, and Smirnov bet 700,000, which was more than the pot of 600,000. Morgan thought about it briefly and then shoved for about 3.4 million total, which was about the size of Smirnov’s stack. Smirnov folded the quads face up.
“For me, it was a very easy fold,” Smirnov said. “If he had two kings before the flop he would have re-raised Dwan, because he’s been active and raising a lot. So, two kings was impossible. Two jacks, in theory, was possible.”
Smirnov said that he thought jacks full of eights wouldn’t have been such a confident shove on the river. “He was like all-in, no problem. Before he had been playing very carefully and tight.”
According to his logic, Morgan would have the 10s9s.
The size of the buy-in was not a factor in the decision, Smirnov said. He added that Morgan seemed visibly upset after the hand, giving more validity to the fold.
Apparently Russian semi-pro Mikhail Smirnoff folded quad 8s face-up to a river shove from businessman John Morgan in the big drop earlier today. It could be either the worst or the best fold in the history of poker. Hopefully when it's all over Morgan will reveal what he held and we'll know which. I've copied and pasted this from another forum; According to Smirnov, the action started with Tom Dwan opening to 32,000. Smirnov called from the small blind with the 88, and businessman John Morgan called from the big blind. The flop fell Js8c7s. Smirnov bet 50,000, Morgan called quickly, and Dwan folded. The 8s hit the turn. Smirnov bet 200,000. Morgan called instantly. Smirnov said Morgan looked very excited on the turn. The Ks landed on the river, and Smirnov bet 700,000, which was more than the pot of 600,000. Morgan thought about it briefly and then shoved for about 3.4 million total, which was about the size of Smirnov’s stack. Smirnov folded the quads face up. “For me, it was a very easy fold,” Smirnov said. “If he had two kings before the flop he would have re-raised Dwan, because he’s been active and raising a lot. So, two kings was impossible. Two jacks, in theory, was possible.” Smirnov said that he thought jacks full of eights wouldn’t have been such a confident shove on the river. “He was like all-in, no problem. Before he had been playing very carefully and tight.” According to his logic, Morgan would have the 10s9s. The size of the buy-in was not a factor in the decision, Smirnov said. He added that Morgan seemed visibly upset after the hand, giving more validity to the fold. Posted by GaryQQQ
If this is true then this is the worst fold in poker history, regardless of what john morgan had!
Apparently Russian semi-pro Mikhail Smirnoff folded quad 8s face-up to a river shove from businessman John Morgan in the big drop earlier today. It could be either the worst or the best fold in the history of poker. Hopefully when it's all over Morgan will reveal what he held and we'll know which. I've copied and pasted this from another forum; According to Smirnov, the action started with Tom Dwan opening to 32,000. Smirnov called from the small blind with the 88, and businessman John Morgan called from the big blind. The flop fell Js8c7s. Smirnov bet 50,000, Morgan called quickly, and Dwan folded. The 8s hit the turn. Smirnov bet 200,000. Morgan called instantly. Smirnov said Morgan looked very excited on the turn. The Ks landed on the river, and Smirnov bet 700,000, which was more than the pot of 600,000. Morgan thought about it briefly and then shoved for about 3.4 million total, which was about the size of Smirnov’s stack. Smirnov folded the quads face up. “For me, it was a very easy fold,” Smirnov said. “If he had two kings before the flop he would have re-raised Dwan, because he’s been active and raising a lot. So, two kings was impossible. Two jacks, in theory, was possible.” Smirnov said that he thought jacks full of eights wouldn’t have been such a confident shove on the river. “He was like all-in, no problem. Before he had been playing very carefully and tight.” According to his logic, Morgan would have the 10s9s. The size of the buy-in was not a factor in the decision, Smirnov said. He added that Morgan seemed visibly upset after the hand, giving more validity to the fold. Posted by GaryQQQ
Greg, I was having problems witht he live feed had to download software (which also installe Google Chrome grrrr) works fine after that Posted by Slykllist
+1 to this Greg. The live stream was unwatchable for me too. I downlaoaded that software and it's been perfect ever since. You can untick the option to download Google Chrome as well I believe.
Apparently Russian semi-pro Mikhail Smirnoff folded quad 8s face-up to a river shove from businessman John Morgan in the big drop earlier today. It could be either the worst or the best fold in the history of poker. Hopefully when it's all over Morgan will reveal what he held and we'll know which. I've copied and pasted this from another forum; According to Smirnov, the action started with Tom Dwan opening to 32,000. Smirnov called from the small blind with the 88, and businessman John Morgan called from the big blind. The flop fell Js8c7s. Smirnov bet 50,000, Morgan called quickly, and Dwan folded. The 8s hit the turn. Smirnov bet 200,000. Morgan called instantly. Smirnov said Morgan looked very excited on the turn. The Ks landed on the river, and Smirnov bet 700,000, which was more than the pot of 600,000. Morgan thought about it briefly and then shoved for about 3.4 million total, which was about the size of Smirnov’s stack. Smirnov folded the quads face up. “For me, it was a very easy fold,” Smirnov said. “If he had two kings before the flop he would have re-raised Dwan, because he’s been active and raising a lot. So, two kings was impossible. Two jacks, in theory, was possible.” Smirnov said that he thought jacks full of eights wouldn’t have been such a confident shove on the river. “He was like all-in, no problem. Before he had been playing very carefully and tight.” According to his logic, Morgan would have the 10s9s. The size of the buy-in was not a factor in the decision, Smirnov said. He added that Morgan seemed visibly upset after the hand, giving more validity to the fold. Posted by GaryQQQ
According to the guys in commentary, Phil Galfond, thought by most to be one of the greatest thinkers in the game, said that he believed that Morgan had the straight flush ~50% of the time here, thereby implying more support for the fold. Interesting one . . .
EDIT: can't remember for the life of me now actually who said that. Thinking Phil Galfond now but if anyone knows for sure . . .
In Response to Re: the big drop : According to the guys in commentary, Brian Hastings, thought by most to be one of the greatest thinkers in the game, said that he believed that Morgan had the straight flush ~50% of the time here, thereby implying more support for the fold. Interesting one . . . Posted by JohnConnor
50% for the s/f, the fold doesn,t seem to bad now,imagine being in that position for that kind of money,mind boggling
In Response to Re: the big drop : 50% for the s/f, the fold doesn,t seem to bad now,imagine being in that position for that kind of money,mind boggling Posted by stokefc
Only person I've seen in that sort of tough position is Le Chiffre, and he called...
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I've copied and pasted this from another forum;
According to Smirnov, the action started with Tom Dwan opening to 32,000. Smirnov called from the small blind with the 88, and businessman John Morgan called from the big blind.
The flop fell Js8c7s. Smirnov bet 50,000, Morgan called quickly, and Dwan folded.
The 8s hit the turn. Smirnov bet 200,000. Morgan called instantly.
Smirnov said Morgan looked very excited on the turn.
The Ks landed on the river, and Smirnov bet 700,000, which was more than the pot of 600,000. Morgan thought about it briefly and then shoved for about 3.4 million total, which was about the size of Smirnov’s stack. Smirnov folded the quads face up.
“For me, it was a very easy fold,” Smirnov said. “If he had two kings before the flop he would have re-raised Dwan, because he’s been active and raising a lot. So, two kings was impossible. Two jacks, in theory, was possible.”
Smirnov said that he thought jacks full of eights wouldn’t have been such a confident shove on the river. “He was like all-in, no problem. Before he had been playing very carefully and tight.”
According to his logic, Morgan would have the 10s9s.
The size of the buy-in was not a factor in the decision, Smirnov said. He added that Morgan seemed visibly upset after the hand, giving more validity to the fold.
Greg, I was having problems witht he live feed had to download software (which also installe Google Chrome grrrr) works fine after that
Over $5m dollars!!!
Must be nice wsop!
EDIT: can't remember for the life of me now actually who said that. Thinking Phil Galfond now but if anyone knows for sure . . .