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should I have shoved

rrickyhuggrrickyhugg Member Posts: 7
edited July 2012 in The Poker Clinic
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
rrickyhugg Small blind  15.00 15.00 2025.00
newton10 Big blind  30.00 45.00 2560.00
 Your hole cards
  • Q
  • A
   
Grispino Raise  120.00 165.00 1790.00
suedaz Fold     
bungo666 Fold     
MeloPete Fold     
rrickyhugg Call  105.00 270.00 1920.00
newton10 Fold     
Flop
  
  • 4
  • Q
  • 2
   
rrickyhugg Check     
Grispino Bet  60.00 330.00 1730.00
rrickyhugg Call  60.00 390.00 1860.00
Turn
  
  • 7
   
rrickyhugg Check     
Grispino Bet  120.00 510.00 1610.00
rrickyhugg Call  120.00 630.00 1740.00
River
  
  • K
   
rrickyhugg Check     
Grispino Bet  315.00 945.00 1295.00
rrickyhugg All-in  1740.00 2685.00 0.00
Grispino Fold     
rrickyhugg Muck     
rrickyhugg Win  1260.00  1260.00
rrickyhugg Return  1425.00 0.00 2685.00
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  • Lambert180Lambert180 Member Posts: 12,197
    edited July 2012
    I think shoving is probably the best move here, if he won't call a shove, then he probably isn't gonna call if you raise to 750 either.

    He's probably gonna call or fold to a raise here regardless of size so might as well go for max value.
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  • EvilPinguEvilPingu Member Posts: 3,462
    edited July 2012
    I probably check/raise the flop, but as played, I think that a shove on the river is the only option. As Lambert said, he's either going to be bet/folding, in which case, it doesn't matter what we do, or he'll be bet/calling or looking to get the money in, in which case, we might as well shove to get maximum value.
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  • rancidrancid Member Posts: 5,945
    edited July 2012
    donk lead flop :S
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  • AMYBRAMYBR Member Posts: 3,432
    edited July 2012
    Start building a pot earlier, obv more profitable than hoping beyond hope he bets 3 streets. 

    Plus we can get oppo to commit more while he thinks he can improve/before suspected drawing hands are made
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  • Gudge92Gudge92 Member Posts: 14
    edited July 2012
    In Response to Re: should I have shoved:
    Start building a pot earlier, obv more profitable than hoping beyond hope he bets 3 streets.  Plus we can get oppo to commit more while he thinks he can improve/before suspected drawing hands are made
    Posted by AMYBR
    i agree, i think u lost alot of value on the flop and turn. on the river he isnt likley to call a shove, if u get him more commited earlier then u have better chance of call and ur move looked so strong on river
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  • Gudge92Gudge92 Member Posts: 14
    edited July 2012
    In Response to Re: should I have shoved:
    Start building a pot earlier, obv more profitable than hoping beyond hope he bets 3 streets.  Plus we can get oppo to commit more while he thinks he can improve/before suspected drawing hands are made
    Posted by AMYBR
    i agree, i think u lost alot of value on the flop and turn. on the river he isnt likley to call a shove, if u get him more commited earlier then u have better chance of call and ur move looked so strong on river
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  • Gudge92Gudge92 Member Posts: 14
    edited July 2012
    In Response to Re: should I have shoved:
    Start building a pot earlier, obv more profitable than hoping beyond hope he bets 3 streets.  Plus we can get oppo to commit more while he thinks he can improve/before suspected drawing hands are made
    Posted by AMYBR
    i agree, i think u lost alot of value on the flop and turn. on the river he isnt likley to call a shove, if u get him more commited earlier then u have better chance of call and ur move looked so strong on river
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