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adjusting to stakes
jams88
Member Posts: 694
Hi guys and gals me again. Having a downswing in my cash game atm examining my hand history im fairly certain i am playing well just a successive run of bad beats, coolers and a imo opinion 1 well played bluff which was my 1st 3bet light(ish) and cost me heavy (i'll post at the bottom so you can laugh about it) you know the drill. The difference for me now is that having slowly risen through the stakes from nl8 to nl30 in the last 2 months the amount money i am playing for is alot different now which is great on the good days but its seems like a **** of alot of money to lose on the bad days im down 6 BI not the end of the world bbut thats £180 which is alot of money to me. Any tips for detaching from the money value to just "play" money if you know what i mean. It has started to effect my play i havent tilted in a long time since i started taking the game seriously but after losing 2 BI set over set and allin for oppo to spike gutshot on river in the space of 2 mins of each other i found my self spew off my nice chip stack in the £11 BH i satted into at 2 in about 5 mins which can only be described as Lag playing at its worst lol
Should i not be playing stakes if i can;t detach myself from the amount of money being played for? any thoughts from anyone who has been through similar would be great.
Not a big one for bluffing usually but tried here, the villian didnt seem stationy untill this hand did i play it badly? trying to rep aa/kk or ak after the flop he promptly ran off after this hand so no chance to win it back
Should i not be playing stakes if i can;t detach myself from the amount of money being played for? any thoughts from anyone who has been through similar would be great.
Not a big one for bluffing usually but tried here, the villian didnt seem stationy untill this hand did i play it badly? trying to rep aa/kk or ak after the flop he promptly ran off after this hand so no chance to win it back
| Player | Action | Cards | Amount | Pot | Balance |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| damrack | Small blind | £0.15 | £0.15 | £18.97 | |
| daragh1980 | Big blind | £0.30 | £0.45 | £34.88 | |
| Your hole cards |
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| 3581118313 | Raise | £0.60 | £1.05 | £74.51 | |
| jams88 | Raise | £1.80 | £2.85 | £30.46 | |
| CrazyBen23 | Fold | ||||
| damrack | Call | £1.65 | £4.50 | £17.32 | |
| daragh1980 | Fold | ||||
| 3581118313 | Call | £1.20 | £5.70 | £73.31 | |
| Flop | |||||
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| damrack | Check | ||||
| 3581118313 | Bet | £2.85 | £8.55 | £70.46 | |
| jams88 | Raise | £8.40 | £16.95 | £22.06 | |
| damrack | Fold | ||||
| 3581118313 | Call | £5.55 | £22.50 | £64.91 | |
| Turn | |||||
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| 3581118313 | Check | ||||
| jams88 | All-in | £22.06 | £44.56 | £0.00 | |
| 3581118313 | Call | £22.06 | £66.62 | £42.85 | |
| 3581118313 | Show |
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| jams88 | Show |
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| River | |||||
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| 3581118313 | Win | Pair of Kings | £64.82 | £107.67 | |
Comments
2) IMO if you lose a BI have a long rest before going for another. It does affect me when I lose one and end up trying too hard to recoup losses and playing marginal hands-a bit like the villain above.
Try leaving tables for at least an hour and cool off before going for another buy in. Best of luck.
He played it like a station and unfortunately he hit top pair useless kicker which is the nuts right?
I feel a bit sick for you tbh. Regarding detatching yourself from the money, what worked for me was.
1) Turn off showing your BR in top corner
2) When playing try not to see it as money but as chips like a tournament.
3) Don't play stakes which are out of your BR, try to follow the 20 buy in rule or deeper.
4) If you have money issues outside of poker, don't play poker. (This is from one of my closest friends experience in the game, which led to him getting in a masive downward spiral)
5) If you get angry, annoyed or frustrated take 5 mins get a glass of water then come back.
6) If there are better things that you could spend your money on i.e yourself , children or partners then do that and then play with the money that is left. I once played to earn money for my wedding, I got to 2k then 3k and all the way up to 8.5k in total through 3 sites and then a few days before I was to withdraw a site went under costing me 4k (that was nice) then I went onto a roulette table with 500 euros i ended up withdrawing £2.8 k because I had no BR management. (I'm still saving for that wedding)
im not struggling too much to play this level i keep getting my money in ahead or horribly coolered of the 8BI i am down now i believe i have only spewed of 3 due to bad play and when you factor in the hands i have won have probably lost about 20 BI last 2 days but have won a few back its just a constant down not to have a winning session. Saying that i have just had another losing "happy hour" so have to drop back down to nl20 untill i win another couple of BI my final 2 losing hands at this level posted below i know they are coolers just makes me feel slightly better to vent sorry to waste anyones time.
I should probably explain this isnt money i need as i havent deposited on the site for 2months when i thought i would take a crack at playing proeprly with good BRM ect having played nl4-10 for a couple of years and small tournys as a purely recreational player sometimes its worrying the amount of money changing hands where i am now. I still have a job and doing ok for money in real life if not great was hoping this could be a small earner on the side nothing more.
I think i need to rap my head around it more in terms of Bigblinds rather than money to play optimally as i sometimes find myself trying to think of what to value bet the river when it should be a shove im think to myself well £15 is alot of money i'll try 8ish better chance of getting called rather than less than a pot sized bet shove is fine
Must run better
Not sure about raising turn with J9 when we pick up the flush draw, TP still has value and can still get it in on riv if it comes a heart.
he's devoid of football supporting skills too!
in hand 3 i don't really get why you raise turn, you have a hand with good equity and s/d value as well, it's not like you can really expect to get him to fold better
I love forum banter!
Hand 1 is well you probably know yourself, you are bluffing a station ... not good
Hand 2: Is a cooler, crazyben is talking complete ball if he isn't swayed by seeing the result, fwiw post without results!!!
Hand 3: Are you raising the turn for value or as a bluff?? IMO you should flat here as you have showdown equity and loads of outs if you are behind, but by raising you are folding out the hands worse and losing your customer who isn't crushing you the majority of the time.
Going back to hand 2 with crazyben, are you folding this turn or flatting the turn like a pro? (Or quickly assess the hand history and say you are raising to £8 pre so he can't call and hit his straight)
OOOOH whats his twitter name?????