is this shove ok?

jams88

Sat tourny 1 seat available, flop is not to friendly but i need a big stack to win the seat. Is the shove justifiable in that i may fold out some small aces if i get called i'm thinking i have 11 clean outs.

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
jimmyjaxx	Small blind		25.00	25.00	1636.25
sweep851	Big blind		50.00	75.00	3643.75
	Your hole cards	K K
jams88	Raise		150.00	225.00	1805.00
poth	Call		150.00	375.00	945.00
songotek05	Fold
EvilZoe	Fold
jimmyjaxx	Call		125.00	500.00	1511.25
sweep851	Call		100.00	600.00	3543.75
Flop
		2 A 9
jimmyjaxx	Check
sweep851	Check
jams88	All-in		1805.00	2405.00	0.00

profman15

Hi Jam

I fel that this is a good spot to all-in personally especially with that one spot needed and nut flush possible. If it was not a Ks then i wouldn't but the nuts do it for me.
Would ou like me to guess your hand after my 'guess the hand' post error?

jams88

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Sat tourny 1 seat available, flop is not to friendly but i need a big stack to win the seat. Is the shove justifiable in that i may fold out some small aces if i get called i'm thinking i have 11 clean outs. Player Action Cards Amount Pot Balance jimmyjaxx Small blind   25.00 25.00 1636.25 sweep851 Big blind   50.00 75.00 3643.75   Your hole cards K K       jams88 Raise   150.00 225.00 1805.00 poth Call   150.00 375.00 945.00 songotek05 Fold         EvilZoe Fold         jimmyjaxx Call   125.00 500.00 1511.25 sweep851 Call   100.00 600.00 3543.75 Flop     2 A 9       jimmyjaxx Check         sweep851 Check         jams88 All-in   1805.00 2405.00 0.00
Posted by jams88

you can try and guess i doubt you will get it lol

UareLIMPER

My guess is something discusting like 7s3s or A2/A3.

AMYBR

firing 3x pot into two oppos here makes no sense to me at all.

11 clean outs?  Not on your nelly

Lambert180

You're probably better putting in a decent bet then calling off a shove if you wanna go with the hand.

jams88

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You're probably better putting in a decent bet then calling off a shove if you wanna go with the hand.
Posted by Lambert180

If we are willing to call a shove why not shove ourselves and hope to take the pot down here on such a wet board?

i was looked up by a qs6s in the end haha

AMYBR

Because we likely lose all the value of our hand, forcig out all the hands we want to be involved
with, while only really getting called beat and needing to improve. 

I know what you were thinking it being a sat, but apply the above logic and its just very counter intuitive.  And again we do not have 11 clean outs.

jams88

11 outs against a pair or 2 pair hand i was thinking so presuming nobody flopped a flush