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good or bad fold?
IMikeyBoyI
Member Posts: 30
Other than not re-raising pre flop. As the raise was 5 blinds, i put my opponent could be on a ace something. and for me personally so many times ive had kings and people hit the ace all the time so this is why i just called (i know alot of players say bad play, but i dont agree :P ) ... but ye should i have folded here? i already put half my money in. to put half in then fold when raised all in at the end, i just felt my kings were no longer strong.
| Player | Action | Cards | Amount | Pot | Balance |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| IMikeyBoyI | Small blind | £0.05 | £0.05 | £9.55 | |
| scrumdown | Big blind | £0.10 | £0.15 | £8.72 | |
| Your hole cards |
| ||||
| may13 | Raise | £0.50 | £0.65 | £14.32 | |
| IMikeyBoyI | Call | £0.45 | £1.10 | £9.10 | |
| scrumdown | Fold | ||||
| Flop | |||||
| |||||
| IMikeyBoyI | Bet | £0.50 | £1.60 | £8.60 | |
| may13 | Call | £0.50 | £2.10 | £13.82 | |
| Turn | |||||
| |||||
| IMikeyBoyI | Bet | £1.50 | £3.60 | £7.10 | |
| may13 | Call | £1.50 | £5.10 | £12.32 | |
| River | |||||
| |||||
| IMikeyBoyI | Bet | £2.55 | £7.65 | £4.55 | |
| may13 | Raise | £10.20 | £17.85 | £2.12 | |
| IMikeyBoyI | Fold | ||||
| may13 | Muck | ||||
| may13 | Win | £9.43 | £11.55 | ||
| may13 | Return | £7.65 | £0.77 | £19.20 | |
Comments
If you 3 bet to £1.50 pre then make it say £2.80 on flop youll have a much easier option on the turn of jamming
I think its a very bad fold to be honest
Youve put in half your stack and only way i can see you behind here it to a slowly trapped QQ ,88 , 77 , but you beating aq and a rare floated bluff which on this occasion cant see that bein the case
Personally tho i cant see why your bet folding if hes donkes 2 pair q3 or sumit like tht then so be it , afterall he did make it 5x raise pre to 50p so could be a slowly played AA looking for you to make the pot big for him
Im never ever folding
Also if youre thinking like this, ' for me personally so many times ive had kings and people hit the ace all the time so this is why i just called (i know alot of players say bad play, but i dont agree :P )' then I'm afraid you're thinking about the game the completely wrong way.
Understanding equity and how ggod practices reward over large volume takes away the decion making process for a lot of people who have studied the game in depth and have become experienced (in spots such as these)
Everyone is on a curve, its kind of natural for people to forget that these things that they take for granted now werent once quite so straightforward, me included. Have to admit have felt myself gettig frustrated in last few months.
But simply taking all the fearful lines out of your game and solely thinking of what gives us the most value, most of the time will just improve your game massively. Win or lose. It really is immaterial if they bink or have you crushed to begin with (stack size specific obv for latter).
What will oppo infer from our bet? Would we ever click back AK here? What hands does he c/r 4bet shove here? Dont get me wrong it is ugly and a cooler. But we never give ourself chance not lose max, or value town oppo when he has a better A or is committed to barrell.
Lol @ nl10 though I prob get it in too though. Just not in this way
UL.
Have to play our oppos likely holding. Do we want him to have to fold a bluff or AK/Q/J/9 107 or when trying to force through Q's 107. Prob going broke anyway. But balance it with going for max value vs hands we crush.
If oppo is suuuuuuuuuuppper bad and we think we can get it in vs those ranges on flop then its fine in a vacuum. But vs a range of players we'll just lose value or get owned. As played flat flop c/r, or shove with specific reads.
Basically you shouldn't be limping in if you want to play the a7s raise pre but a fold is better imo from this position on the table. If you had folded you wouldnt have got into the cooler and still have all your money
1 You are only really beating one hand that imaybe raising the river for value ie AQ.
2 They are extremely unlikely to be bluffing. They would have been far more likely to raise the flop or turn if they were bluffing.
3 You are losing to a large number of hands that would raise the river for value.
In terms of re raising pre, you can't let bad experiences in poker deter you from making, what you know to be the best play, So def re raise mate.