Who Was In The Wrong? i thought it was a bad beat?? **opinions**

c_a_f_c10

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
MATTALEX57	Small blind		10.00	10.00	3222.50
bigfras24	Big blind		20.00	30.00	2970.00
	Your hole cards	A A
bamkit	Call		20.00	50.00	2467.50
c_a_f_c10	Raise		60.00	110.00	2880.00
ELVIS719	Fold
arcas	Fold
MATTALEX57	Call		50.00	160.00	3172.50
bigfras24	Fold
bamkit	Call		40.00	200.00	2427.50
Flop
		2 7 9
MATTALEX57	Check
bamkit	All-in		2427.50	2627.50	0.00
c_a_f_c10	All-in		2880.00	5507.50	0.00
MATTALEX57	Call		2880.00	8387.50	292.50
MATTALEX57	Show	7 8
bamkit	Show	K 7
c_a_f_c10	Show	A A
Turn
		Q
River
		J
MATTALEX57	Win	Flush to the Queen	8387.50		8680.00

aussie09

you'll be going on a short journey....

Tikay10

Because we lose a hand - & there is a loser in EVERY SINGLE hand of poker (split pots excepted) does not mean EITHER player did a single thing wrong.

Some hands play themselves, they just do, but someone HAS to lose.

The other chap genuinely thought his hand was good on that flop (wrongly) & he got there. Standard.

I made a bad call in Vegas recently with the 2nd nuts in Razz, it was for my Tourney. I went bust. Villain then said "did you not realise you were losing?"

"Umm, no Sir, actually I did not, I would not have called if I did".....

DOHHHHHHH

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Because we lose a hand - & there is a loser in EVERY SINGLE hand of poker (split pots excepted) does not mean EITHER player did a single thing wrong. Some hands play themselves, they just do, but someone HAS to lose. The other chap genuinely thought his hand was good on that flop (wrongly) & he got there. Standard. I made a bad call in Vegas recently with the 2nd nuts in Razz, it was for my Tourney. I went bust. Villain then said "did you not realise you were losing?" "Umm, no Sir, actually I did not, I would not have called if I did".....
Posted by Tikay10

Been playing quite abit of razz lately and it sounds like you're being really hard on yourself saying it was a bad call with the 2nd nuts!!!

Maybe it's because Im bad, and playing against other bad players but it's rare to see the nuts! It sounds like a horrid cooler to me, in your own words, "ungetoffable"!?

Was it no limit or pot limit or something? I've only played FL so far....

Is it common to fold huge hands then? Am I wrong?  A2346 right? Cold!

Tikay10

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In Response to Re: Who Was In The Wrong? i thought it was a bad beat?? **opinions** : Been playing quite abit of razz lately and it sounds like you're being really hard on yourself saying it was a bad call with the 2nd nuts!!! Maybe it's because Im bad, and playing against other bad players but it's rare to see the nuts! It sounds like a horrid cooler to me, in your own words, "ungetoffable"!? Was it no limit or pot limit or something? I've only played FL so far.... Is it common to fold huge hands then? Am I wrong?  A2346 right? Cold!
Posted by DOHHHHHHH

I may have worded that badly, it was an "easy" call, but as it happened, a losing call, so almost by definition, bad.

Yes, I had a nut 6, & though I'm a raw novice @ Razz, it seemed to me that it was as hard to get off as, say, running K-K into A-A pre-flop - MOST times we cannot & should not fold. I'm just never folding that, ever, & yes, it was a standard cooler spot.
 
It was rather comical though when Villain said "did you not realise I had it?" It was not a rub, it was a serious question, & I'm sat there thinking, jeez, what a daft thing to think or say!

It was FL, by the bye, but it was late stage, 2 Tables left from 15 starting Tables, so the Blinds were huge. As you know, it's well nigh impossible to go skinto at FL Tourneys inside the first 4 or 5 levels.
 
I found FL perplexing whilst I was in Vegas, as I played a few HORSE Tourneys, these are FL for the most part. Early doors, I ended up so many times with, in say Stud or Omaha 8 or better, with 2nd nut/2nd nut in a multiway pot, getting something like 16/1. How can we fold at those prices?! I never did, & I always lost, lol.  

DOHHHHHHH

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In Response to Re:. As you know, it's well nigh impossible to go skinto at FL Tourneys inside the first 4 or 5 levels. 
Posted by Tikay10

You'd have thought so wouldn't you!

Come join our 'homegame' I'll show you how to do it. 

Will only cost you 11 sents towards the "stop Giant811 going busto" fund.

utopian9

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Player Action Cards Amount Pot Balance MATTALEX57 Small blind   10.00 10.00 3222.50 bigfras24 Big blind   20.00 30.00 2970.00   Your hole cards A A       bamkit Call   20.00 50.00 2467.50 c_a_f_c10 Raise   60.00 110.00 2880.00 ELVIS719 Fold         arcas Fold         MATTALEX57 Call   50.00 160.00 3172.50 bigfras24 Fold         bamkit Call   40.00 200.00 2427.50 Flop     2 7 9       MATTALEX57 Check         bamkit All-in   2427.50 2627.50 0.00 c_a_f_c10 All-in   2880.00 5507.50 0.00 MATTALEX57 Call   2880.00 8387.50 292.50 MATTALEX57 Show 7 8       bamkit Show K 7       c_a_f_c10 Show A A       Turn     Q       River     J       MATTALEX57 Win Flush to the Queen 8387.50   8680.00
Posted by c_a_f_c10

Quite simply you were unlucky but regardless of any other comments
the call was'nt just a bad call,it was a 'bingo call', and he should have lost everything and mores the pity he did'nt.