QQ, is this a bad fold?

davelufc

Low stakes DS tourney. some fair players, i know theres only 2 hands beating mine, correct fold?

I`m prob gonna get some flack for this so fire away!!!!

Oppo not been playing many hands so was a bit freaked!!

Call OOp threw me too!!!

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
RAB642	Small blind		50.00	50.00	5887.50
bigal36903	Big blind		100.00	150.00	5290.00
	Your hole cards	Q Q
nug82	Raise		400.00	550.00	6375.00
davelufc	Raise		800.00	1350.00	8341.00
lea116311	Fold
DELTA	Fold
Ploppy33	Fold
dandean825	Fold
B1ackrose	Fold
aiken2001	Fold
RAB642	Fold
bigal36903	Call		700.00	2050.00	4590.00
nug82	Raise		2400.00	4450.00	3975.00
davelufc	Fold
bigal36903	Fold
nug82	Muck
nug82	Win		2450.00		6425.00
nug82	Return		2000.00	0.00	8425.00

bearlyther

We have to go broke here with qq playing 35bbs effective yes his raise looks very strong but can easily have a hand like 1010,jj,ak got to be looking to get it in here even if he does turn over kk or aa theres nothing you can do but go broke in this spot.

Lambert180

The stacks involved at the start of the hand are...

Bigal   -  54BB
Hero   -  89BB
nug82 - 68BB

So I dunno where the 35BB effective came from above.

I think it's a pretty decent fold, I don't think I could do it myself, but it's a DS and you're still nearly 90BB deep which is massive. I can't see AK doing this too often but it's gonna be JJ+ mostly, and I just don't think there's any need to take a risk for potentially nearly 70BB when you don't need to.

LOL_RAISE

i think theres a good argument for just flatting pre, but nh

profman15

HI

I think a consideration is that you are not closing the action so imo , fold.  Too big a stack i feel.

jams88

In Response to Re: QQ, is this a bad fold?:

i think theres a good argument for just flatting pre, but nh
Posted by LOL_RAISE

if we flat are we looking to set mine or to c/c a baord if we have an overpair?

davelufc

Thanks for the responses, 

I must admit i`m still no wiser!!! Out of the 5 replies so far, 2 - fold, 1- shove and 1 - flat!!

Ta lads.

Batkin88

Fold or shove, I think fold is fine but prefer shove.

bolly580

In Response to Re: QQ, is this a bad fold?:

Fold or shove, I think fold is fine but prefer shove.
Posted by Batkin88

??? just jam 83bbs??? 

never, flat good after ha makes it x4 pre

UareLIMPER

I think the reason why there are so many different views is because either fold, call or shove isnt bad.

It all depends on the reads and how the players (including yourself) have been playing at the table.

As you say he hasnt played many hands and hes obviously not scared of the person who called OOP it looks mega strong so it was probably a good fold. If you have been aggro on the table however and playing lots of hands he might think his JJ are good and then obviously a bad fold.

From how you describe I think its a good fold as he played it so strong and screams AA/KK. Im never calling here really imo.