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Thursday's live show - with James & Stuart (***OFFICIAL THREAD***)

J-HartiganJ-Hartigan Member Posts: 2,756
edited July 2012 in Poker Chat
Greetings!

Mr Rutter and I will appear on channel 861 at 7pm and on Sky Sports 4 HD at 10pm.

The line-up looks like this:

7pm  Live coverage of a £600 Gtd Timed Tournament
8pm  The Poker Clinic (please send in your Hand IDs)
9pm  Sky Poker School (see below)
10pm  Top of the Pots
11pm  Live coverage of the £12k Sky Sports Bounty Hunter

In Sky Poker School, we'll discuss playing an "awkward" stack in multi-table tournaments. I would define "awkward" as 20-35bbs - too big a stack for open-shoving, or even re-shoving, but probably too shallow to allow anyone to three-bet/fold, or play intricate post-flop poker. Please contribute your questions, opinions and experiences.

Obviously, London 2012 is currently at the front of most people's minds - especially those of us "lucky" enough to live on the ORN! So, our on-air competition will have an Olympics theme. We'll be playing 'Going for Gold'. Actually, to avoid a lawsuit from Henry Kelly, we'll call it 'Going for Copper'. It'll take the form of a poker-related quiz. It'll run between 7pm and 9.30pm, and will see the winner competing in next Tuesday's £5k Open.

Finally, if No Limit Hold'em were an Olympic event, which MTT specialists would you select to represent the following countries in this year's games...?

Great Britain
USA
Russia
France
Germany

E-mail:  skyopen@bskyb.com
Twitter:  #SkyPokerTV

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  • BorinLonerBorinLoner Member Posts: 3,863
    edited July 2012
    "...those of us "lucky" enough to live on the ORN!" - Eh? You live on what?

    Anyway, good evening James and Stuart. I hope the days are treating you well.

    On your Poker School "awkward stack" topic; I generally think of my 3-bet shoving stack size as being between 15BB-25BB. Even facing just an opening min-raise there's still going to be at least 14% of my stack in the middle. That's not to say I consider 3-betting for 25BB as my only move but I think it's legitimate.

    I'll make this shove with quite a wide portion of my range against light openers, or big hands like AA and KK if my opponents have seen me do this before and if I think they're tight. It's totally player and position dependent - I won't be shoving 25BB with Ten high into a super-tight player and I wouldn't necessarily 3-bet as big from the button as I would from the blinds.

    Have a great show.


    (I had posted a hand history but, after thinking about it, it's not really relevant due to the effective stacks involved)
  • J-HartiganJ-Hartigan Member Posts: 2,756
    edited July 2012
    In Response to Re: Thursday's live show - with James & Stuart (***OFFICIAL THREAD***):
    "...those of us "lucky" enough to live on the ORN!" - Eh? You live on what?
    Posted by BorinLoner
    The Olympic Route Network!


  • BorinLonerBorinLoner Member Posts: 3,863
    edited July 2012
    You southerners and your fancy transport networks.

    What's wrong with a tram or a donkey? Nothing! That's what! ;)
  • The_Don90The_Don90 Member Posts: 9,818
    edited July 2012

    Mtt olympics i can only comment for GB and USa as simply i only have one other name for the other 3 nations combined. So as my effort.


    GB

    Chris Brammer
    Marc Wright
    Julian Thew

    I dont care whos argueing my point with me, i fully believe i;ve picked 3 of the best British mtt players.


    USA

    Vanessa Selbst
    Phil Hellmuth
    Phil Ivey

    Again 3 top players.


    In honesty i think a team Canada would be strong aswell.

  • cenachavcenachav Member Posts: 2,682
    edited July 2012

    When I saw the competition name I thought the prize was going to be a policeman!

    For the mtt Olympics is it just NLH being played?  If there is an Omaha event then surely our very own Tikay should be considered?  If not then he can at least keep the bench warm, by sleeping on it! lol

    Have a great show and I'm looking forward to the poker school as playing that size stack is part of my game that definatly needs work on

  • J-HartiganJ-Hartigan Member Posts: 2,756
    edited July 2012
    In Response to Re: Thursday's live show - with James & Stuart (***OFFICIAL THREAD***):
    When I saw the competition name I thought the prize was going to be a policeman! For the mtt Olympics is it just NLH being played?  If there is an Omaha event then surely our very own Tikay should be considered?  If not then he can at least keep the bench warm, by sleeping on it! lol Have a great show and I'm looking forward to the poker school as playing that size stack is part of my game that definatly needs work on
    Posted by cenachav
    I did specify No Limit Hold'em :-)
  • cenachavcenachav Member Posts: 2,682
    edited July 2012
    In Response to Re: Thursday's live show - with James & Stuart (***OFFICIAL THREAD***):
    In Response to Re: Thursday's live show - with James & Stuart (***OFFICIAL THREAD***) : I did specify No Limit Hold'em :-)
    Posted by J-Hartigan
    Ok.  I can't read today!  I blame Orford myself.  Not sure 100% why yet but will work it out later :)
  • D_LegendD_Legend Member Posts: 335
    edited July 2012
    #546147402

    hand from master cash 1

    I just didn't understand the play so i just wanted to see the hands they had

    and can the reraiser on the flop ever fold let alone the sb ???
  • liamboi11liamboi11 Member Posts: 2,141
    edited July 2012
    hi have a good show guys

    if i had to pick 3 top players for each team they would be

    great britain-jp kelly/james akenhead/sam trickett
    usa-phil hellmuth/eric seidel/jason mercier
    russia-vitaly lumkin/ivan demidow/alex kravchenko
    france-elky/fabrice soulier/arnuad mattern
    germany-pius heinz/sandra naujoks/sebastian ruthenberg
  • BUFCBUFC Member Posts: 328
    edited July 2012
    Did I get the max out of this hand guys? Was the bet on the river too small? 546182506
  • Sky_DanBSky_DanB Member Posts: 205
    edited July 2012
    In Response to Re: Thursday's live show - with James & Stuart (***OFFICIAL THREAD***):
    Did I get the max out of this hand guys? Was the bet on the river too small? 546182506
    Posted by BUFC
    Thanks for the hand, where is it from?
  • BUFCBUFC Member Posts: 328
    edited July 2012
    Yes James my hand is from this TV Timed Tournament, thanks.
  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited July 2012
    A hand history from the TV Timed tonight.

    Hand History #546189284
    Is there any merit to me peeling pre hoping to induce behind in this format? It's awkward playing so shallow and trying exploit peoples ranges.

    Hope you can fit it in.
  • BUFCBUFC Member Posts: 328
    edited July 2012
    Yep, your correct Stuart. Boston United!
  • The_Don90The_Don90 Member Posts: 9,818
    edited July 2012
    I missed start of show trying to qualify for tonights bounty hunter and lost track of time. At least i qualified. So missed your comments on my UK suggestion.

    Question for Stuart. Re: the Q4 v J6 hand. Stuart said on the turn if we lead flop and c/r turn we're only repping a flush. Would he ever use this line as a bluff?
  • The_Don90The_Don90 Member Posts: 9,818
    edited July 2012
    That last hand (AA v KQ v 78) is simply one of the craziest things ive ever seen. You gotta love poker
  • The_Don90The_Don90 Member Posts: 9,818
    edited July 2012
    Hand request from tonights main event.

    Issue in this hand is AK early stages. In particularly wanting to my line here, on the river i made the sigh call with my hand. Struggling to see much i beat there apart from bluffs given action.

    546203427
  • BorinLonerBorinLoner Member Posts: 3,863
    edited July 2012
    Isn't Tymoshenko Ukrainian? Ukrainian-American, I think...

    I'm such a spoil-sport. Sorry Stuart.
  • GlenelgGlenelg Member Posts: 6,627
    edited July 2012
    Poker olympics...
    Razavi - GB
    Hellmuth - USA
    Heinz - Germany
    Benyamine - France (head)
    Rousso - France (heart) ;-)
    Take Won Down - North Korea ;-))


  • The_Don90The_Don90 Member Posts: 9,818
    edited July 2012
    Thanks James and Stuart great hand anaylsis (spelling?) thought pretty much as Stuart there. Im not sure why i bet turn after flop. River i completely hated it and looked at pot and though well decent odds and if i lose onto the next tournament - such as the benifits of online poker. Felt completely sick during hand.
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