i would bet here.I think if you bet here with the nuts and everyone sees the hand,they cant say you were wrong to do so.I would never bet into a dry side pot with nothing,thats just silly.But with the nuts,every time
I don't know the rules for a casino, but if I had the nuts after the river with other players to act behind me, I would certainly bet in a MTT and on the bubble of a DYM game. It is the only time I would bet in a DYM game on the bubble.
ya i find checking dwn a hand give your opponent a free card at opening flush or straight draws.......... and if they then have value they will call and sometimes hit
For me it is simple. If it is in a regular tournement or a normal STT then you bet the river if you have the nuts. Only in a DYM STT on the bubble would i consider checking because it really doesnt matter though even then i probably would bet.
The issue with the betting in this situation comes about when people bet with weak hands just to try to win the pot and end up trebling the short stack up.But if you are sat with the nuts then bet it everyday of the week and twice on sundays. Your opponent will probably fold but as long as you win the hand then he wont be too bothered.In any tourny laddering up is important but you dont want to do it at the cost of chips which you can use to get even higher up the ladder.
ive been thinking about this recentley, alot nof people do it , check when they know theyve got the best hand, but why?????, this is poker, ur 1 mission is to win the hand and as much money as possable, i dont understand it.
ive been thinking about this recentley, alot nof people do it , check when they know theyve got the best hand, but why?????, this is poker, ur 1 mission is to win the hand and as much money as possable, i dont understand it. Posted by nirvana29
Scenario,
you are on the final table of a big mtt, you are down to last 4 players,
I knew i had the nuts and the pot won BUT i didnt want to be hassled and shunned because i bet when i shouldnt have as i was unsure of what the unwritten rules were in the nuts situation.
I have only been in check down situations a few times, but never with the nuts so have never given it thought. So i only had a few secs to make a decision on wether to check or bet.
Reading what u guys have written, if u have the nuts then u bet, otherwise check down to avoid the above post situation.
You're checking down to improve your chances of laddering.
If you hit the nuts, or a good hand, then you want to extract value, knowing that you are probably ahead of the villain.
There is no reason not to bet if you have a strong hand, since even if you bet the other guy out of it then the chances are his presence in the hand wouldnt make much difference to the person who is all in.
You're checking down to improve your chances of laddering. If you hit the nuts, or a good hand, then you want to extract value, knowing that you are probably ahead of the villain. There is no reason not to bet if you have a strong hand, since even if you bet the other guy out of it then the chances are his presence in the hand wouldnt make much difference to the person who is all in. Posted by Deadluck
W R O N G.
This has happened to me and I had a big hand. My assumption was, the guy who bet would no way bet unless he had something stronger as it is such a crucial moment in the tourney. the shortstack doubled up. I went out next
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i would bet here.I think if you bet here with the nuts and everyone sees the hand,they cant say you were wrong to do so.I would never bet into a dry side pot with nothing,thats just silly.But with the nuts,every time
The issue with the betting in this situation comes about when people bet with weak hands just to try to win the pot and end up trebling the short stack up.But if you are sat with the nuts then bet it everyday of the week and twice on sundays.
Your opponent will probably fold but as long as you win the hand then he wont be too bothered.In any tourny laddering up is important but you dont want to do it at the cost of chips which you can use to get even higher up the ladder.
Scenario,
you are on the final table of a big mtt, you are down to last 4 players,
payouts are 1st- £10,000
2nd- £6500
3rd - £4000
4th - £2000
3 players have a decent stack which are of similar size and there is one short stack.
The short stack moves all in and gets 2 callers
The short stack holds KQspades,
One of the other callers holds AJspades
The other caller holds 99
The flop comes 3spades 6spades 9hearts.
Supposing the fella with the set put out a big bet to protect his hand against against the flush draw and got AJspades to fold.
The hand still has to go to showdown as there is an all in,
turn 2 clubs, river 8spades.
The shortstack has now trebled up and maybe in contention to take down the whole tourney.
If the hand was checked down, everyone left would be at least 2k richer, and another opponent gone.
I knew i had the nuts and the pot won BUT i didnt want to be hassled and shunned because i bet when i shouldnt have as i was unsure of what the unwritten rules were in the nuts situation.
I have only been in check down situations a few times, but never with the nuts so have never given it thought. So i only had a few secs to make a decision on wether to check or bet.
Reading what u guys have written, if u have the nuts then u bet, otherwise check down to avoid the above post situation.
Thanks.
If you hit the nuts, or a good hand, then you want to extract value, knowing that you are probably ahead of the villain.
There is no reason not to bet if you have a strong hand, since even if you bet the other guy out of it then the chances are his presence in the hand wouldnt make much difference to the person who is all in.
W R O N G.
This has happened to me and I had a big hand. My assumption was, the guy who bet would no way bet unless he had something stronger as it is such a crucial moment in the tourney. the shortstack doubled up. I went out next