I would be fairly certain that the number of people who looked at the league table was very small, and those that cared about their positions was even smaller. With the exception of MTT's, this was absolutely meaningless as a guide to performance, and only really an indication of volume played. Posted by jakally
Hi Jakally
May i say that you are obviously an excellent player and carried yourself in an assured way for the site when you were on tv and in vegas. You have my respect. However, i couldn't disagree more. How are you "fairly certain..."etc? You are an accomplished regular player who knows the games of people you play with. You've probably forgotten more than the average Joe on this site who struggles to make the cap each month.
I can assure you that as an individual who has been playing for just over a year that i do look and record players STT points when i play DYM's and certainly feel like it gives me an idea of their ability. I even used it in MTT's to see if the good players were in my 'minis' (remember win both and get jackpot) so i could watch them play. What harm is there in that, i ask? Surely the more you play the more accomplished you become. Well, maybe statistically, this will vary somewhat but the the very poor players will move to another game once they lose what is too much for them. The inchworm concept holds true methinks.
If you were playing in one of these games on another site you would have a HUD telling you % wins et and god knows what. Here there is no such thing so we have to make do with whatever info we can get. Some of us don't subscribe to sharkscope because the outlay isn't financially worth it for or level. What harm does the league do? I noticed that the regs were talking about how many poker points they had for the vegas freeroll so they would be in a better position for that tournament as the stacks were given out in a pro rata basis.
Some of us don't lock ourselves in a cellar for 8 hours a day in order to make a living. I'm not saying you do but i am saying that the league is a chance for me to make all kinds of comparisons for nothing. It helps me to feel competitive and what harm does it do as the software is there and its done by computer?
I really am surprised by your response Jakally. You don't need the poker league as you play in high end games where most players are regs . Some of us play for fun and see the league as fun.If poker can't be fun and we don't earn a living from it then why should people bother playing it.
TBH, as an ex- maths teacher who would like to see how i can organise and adapt my game with information if there is no league then i may as well join stars, get a HUD, and see how that goes.
I've stayed with SKY because of the community spirit. No league reduces that surely? Please reply Jakally as i'd like Sky to see a Regs points of view. This isn't a personal affront as i find you to be a credit to the site but active debate may get SKY to consider it more. Cheers and have a good time at the tables...
In Response to Re: League table....why has it gone? : Hi Jakally May i say that you are obviously an excellent player and carried yourself in an assured way for the site when you were on tv and in vegas. You have my respect. However, i couldn't disagree more. How are you "fairly certain..."etc? You are an accomplished regular player who knows the games of people you play with. You've probably forgotten more than the average Joe on this site who struggles to make the cap each month. I can assure you that as an individual who has been playing for just over a year that i do look and record players STT points when i play DYM's and certainly feel like it gives me an idea of their ability. I even used it in MTT's to see if the good players were in my 'minis' (remember win both and get jackpot) so i could watch them play. What harm is there in that, i ask? Surely the more you play the more accomplished you become. Well, maybe statistically, this will vary somewhat but the the very poor players will move to another game once they lose what is too much for them. The inchworm concept holds true methinks. If you were playing in one of these games on another site you would have a HUD telling you % wins et and god knows what. Here there is no such thing so we have to make do with whatever info we can get. Some of us don't subscribe to sharkscope because the outlay isn't financially worth it for or level. What harm does the league do? I noticed that the regs were talking about how many poker points they had for the vegas freeroll so they would be in a better position for that tournament as the stacks were given out in a pro rata basis. Some of us don't lock ourselves in a cellar for 8 hours a day in order to make a living. I'm not saying you do but i am saying that the league is a chance for me to make all kinds of comparisons for nothing. It helps me to feel competitive and what harm does it do as the software is there and its done by computer? I really am surprised by your response Jakally. You don't need the poker league as you play in high end games where most players are regs . Some of us play for fun and see the league as fun. If poker can't be fun and we don't earn a living from it then why should people bother playing it. TBH, as an ex- maths teacher who would like to see how i can organise and adapt my game with information if there is no league then i may as well join stars, get a HUD, and see how that goes. I've stayed with SKY because of the community spirit. No league reduces that surely? Please reply Jakally as i'd like Sky to see a Regs points of view. This isn't a personal affront as i find you to be a credit to the site but active debate may get SKY to consider it more . Cheers and have a good time at the tables... Posted by profman15
Have to agree with Profman here. Jackally usually talks sense but I think he has misjudged here.
Although I have never made the League Tables, I looked at them every week to see what percentage I was off them as a benchmark and also refered to it to see where players I was against in MTTs were placed.
Well put Ryderro and cheers to ice tiger too. Congrats on your result the other week too mate. You see SKY people are using them because otherwise there's nothing as HUD's aren't allowed. We make judgements from them about other players and also give ourselves goals. That makes us play more so SKY wins as well.
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May i say that you are obviously an excellent player and carried yourself in an assured way for the site when you were on tv and in vegas. You have my respect. However, i couldn't disagree more. How are you "fairly certain..."etc? You are an accomplished regular player who knows the games of people you play with. You've probably forgotten more than the average Joe on this site who struggles to make the cap each month.
I can assure you that as an individual who has been playing for just over a year that i do look and record players STT points when i play DYM's and certainly feel like it gives me an idea of their ability. I even used it in MTT's to see if the good players were in my 'minis' (remember win both and get jackpot) so i could watch them play. What harm is there in that, i ask? Surely the more you play the more accomplished you become. Well, maybe statistically, this will vary somewhat but the the very poor players will move to another game once they lose what is too much for them. The inchworm concept holds true methinks.
If you were playing in one of these games on another site you would have a HUD telling you % wins et and god knows what. Here there is no such thing so we have to make do with whatever info we can get. Some of us don't subscribe to sharkscope because the outlay isn't financially worth it for or level. What harm does the league do? I noticed that the regs were talking about how many poker points they had for the vegas freeroll so they would be in a better position for that tournament as the stacks were given out in a pro rata basis.
Some of us don't lock ourselves in a cellar for 8 hours a day in order to make a living. I'm not saying you do but i am saying that the league is a chance for me to make all kinds of comparisons for nothing. It helps me to feel competitive and what harm does it do as the software is there and its done by computer?
I really am surprised by your response Jakally. You don't need the poker league as you play in high end games where most players are regs . Some of us play for fun and see the league as fun. If poker can't be fun and we don't earn a living from it then why should people bother playing it.
TBH, as an ex- maths teacher who would like to see how i can organise and adapt my game with information if there is no league then i may as well join stars, get a HUD, and see how that goes.
I've stayed with SKY because of the community spirit. No league reduces that surely? Please reply Jakally as i'd like Sky to see a Regs points of view. This isn't a personal affront as i find you to be a credit to the site but active debate may get SKY to consider it more. Cheers and have a good time at the tables...
Although I have never made the League Tables, I looked at them every week to see what percentage I was off them as a benchmark and also refered to it to see where players I was against in MTTs were placed.