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Bad bluff?...how should i have played it, if at all?

profman15profman15 Member Posts: 1,808
edited August 2012 in The Poker Clinic
Hi folks

A bit of frustration and tilt were contributory factors here, me thinks. Player to my right had been calling AI's with junk and sucking out numerous times(at least the chat box didn't respond!). Is my play poor here? What would you do? Maybe ai post flop better even though he'd have carried on with a set. My equity v 25% opening raise range makes me a 2 to 1 dog on the turn according to pokerstove. Your thoughts wuld be appreciated here. I may as well gain some knowledge eh? Cheers....



Small blind 40.0040.005665.00profman15Big blind 80.00120.001380.00 Your hole cards9J   techdeckRaise 240.00360.002785.00laird06Fold    1dp1Fold    tiggy121
Fold    profman15Call 160.00520.001220.00Flop  658   profman15Bet 260.00780.00960.00techdeckCall 260.001040.002525.00Turn  K   profman15Bet 520.001560.00440.00techdeckRaise 1040.002600.001485.00profman15All-in 440.003040.000.00techdeckUnmatched bet 80.002960.001565.00profman15Show9J   techdeckShowKK   River  A   techdeckWinThree Kings2960.00 4525.00
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  • Lambert180Lambert180 Member Posts: 12,197
    edited August 2012
    Definitely just fold pre, your other option is shove, but you can't call with less than with J9s with 20BB, especially OOP.

    Once you've called, don't donk bet, think you just have to check/fold.
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  • AMYBRAMYBR Member Posts: 3,432
    edited August 2012
    2 shallow to peel, shove fold, 80% fold
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  • GELDYGELDY Member Posts: 5,203
    edited August 2012
    fold pre - post and anywhere else
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  • profman15profman15 Member Posts: 1,808
    edited August 2012
    Cheers fellas

    Deep down, i knew it...just a bit tilted i feel. Almost as if i wanted to get away from the monitor! Probably, ok to call then ch/fold mode eh? I think some downturn has had me grasping at straws lately TBH.
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  • Ploppy33Ploppy33 Member Posts: 721
    edited August 2012
    may want to remove oppos name from post

    shove or fold pre for me - 95% fold
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  • Lambert180Lambert180 Member Posts: 12,197
    edited August 2012
    In Response to Re: Bad bluff?...how should i have played it, if at all?:
    Cheers fellas Deep down, i knew it...just a bit tilted i feel. Almost as if i wanted to get away from the monitor! Probably, ok to call then ch/fold mode eh? I think some downturn has had me grasping at straws lately TBH.
    Posted by profman15
    I don't know if I've misunderstood your post, but no it's not ok to call and then check/fold.

    When you have less than 20BB, you can't be calling raises with the intention of folding post-flop.
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  • percival09percival09 Member Posts: 3,804
    edited August 2012
    would be ok if you were deeper but it's probz slightly too shallow 
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  • grantorinograntorino Member Posts: 4,710
    edited August 2012
    Fold> shove>>>>>>>>>>>>>call pre

    If I did call I would be crai lots of flops, this would definitely be 1 of them
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  • profman15profman15 Member Posts: 1,808
    edited August 2012
    In Response to Re: Bad bluff?...how should i have played it, if at all?:
    may want to remove oppos name from post shove or fold pre for me - 95% fold
    Posted by Ploppy33
    Hi Ploppy
    I didn't feel a need to remove the persons name in this case as it only concerned my play , not his. I wouldn't have minded the reverse being done. There was no poor play from him, in my opinion.
    PS I do normally remove a players name as the prob usually involves the opponent. This one didn't...it was my tilted play. All the comments have involved me NOT him.
    However, if more people feel i should then i will ...cheers
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  • WilhelmWilhelm Member Posts: 1,730
    edited August 2012
    In Response to Re: Bad bluff?...how should i have played it, if at all?:
    In Response to Re: Bad bluff?...how should i have played it, if at all? : Hi Ploppy I didn't feel a need to remove the persons name in this case as it only concerned my play , not his. I wouldn't have minded the reverse being done. There was no poor play from him, in my opinion. PS I do normally remove a players name as the prob usually involves the opponent. This one didn't...it was my tilted play. All the comments have involved me NOT him. However, if more people feel i should then i will ...cheers
    Posted by profman15
    I tend to always edit the name out incase someone takes offence, but yeah in this spot its unnecessary.  I still would though.
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  • BorinLonerBorinLoner Member Posts: 3,863
    edited August 2012
    It's frequently beneficial to include the opponent's name. Most players wouldn't mind unless you're accusing them of being bad, "fishy" or displaying a hand in which they are likely to be criticised by other posters. When that's not the case, I wouldn't exclude their name unless they asked me to...

    There's no real reason to remove the player's name here.
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  • BorinLonerBorinLoner Member Posts: 3,863
    edited August 2012
    By the way, I'm in the "fold pre-flop" camp on this hand.

    Your hand is not good, you're out of position and your stack is too short to be calling with marginal hands.
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  • profman15profman15 Member Posts: 1,808
    edited August 2012
    In Response to Re: Bad bluff?...how should i have played it, if at all?:
    By the way, I'm in the "fold pre-flop" camp on this hand. Your hand is not good, you're out of position and your stack is too short to be calling with marginal hands.
    Posted by BorinLoner
    cheers Borin
    I agree on both counts...
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