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Is this really fair?

oynutteroynutter Member Posts: 4,773
edited August 2012 in Poker Chat

0293871 (01:27 07/08/2012)

PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
rpk007 Small blind   20.00 20.00 1770.00
oynutter Big blind   40.00 60.00 2785.00
  Your hole cards
  • K
  • J
     
wangkarrs Call   40.00 100.00 3460.00
sillysilve Fold        
poker67442 Fold        
rpk007 Fold        
oynutter Check        
Flop
   
  • K
  • J
  • K
     
oynutter Check        
wangkarrs Bet   75.00 175.00 3385.00
oynutter Call   75.00 250.00 2710.00
Turn
   
  • 7
     
oynutter Check        
wangkarrs Bet   120.00 370.00 3265.00
oynutter Call   120.00 490.00 2590.00
River
   
  • 6
     
oynutter Check        
wangkarrs Check        
oynutter Show
  • K
  • J
     
wangkarrs Muck
  • 8
  • 8
     
oynutter Win Full House, Kings and Jacks 490.00   3080.00
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  • oynutteroynutter Member Posts: 4,773
    edited August 2012
    He mucked his hand because he did'nt want to show me--- Yet I can see what he mucked 10 seconds later in hand history--- Not very fair imo---- Can't happen live-- so why here?
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  • wayne1958wayne1958 Member Posts: 263
    edited August 2012
    ay big problrm, yawn..
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  • oynutteroynutter Member Posts: 4,773
    edited August 2012
    Brilliant reply--thanks for that--- I don't think it's fair because we can get good reads that we should not be able to get innit.
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  • scotty77scotty77 Member Posts: 4,970
    edited August 2012
    He didn't muck he checked back.  In a live scenario the dealer would have asked for both players to table their hand.  Fair enough in a live scenario you woulda snap said boat and he just mucks but the virtual daaler can't distinquish these things and this is the fairest way, and this is a pretty normal industry standard feature anwyay.


    If he had clicked fold then you wouldn't have seen.


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  • oynutteroynutter Member Posts: 4,773
    edited August 2012
    In Response to Re: Is this really fair?:
    He didn't muck he checked back.  In a live scenario the dealer would have asked for both players to table their hand.  Fair enough in a live scenario you woulda snap said boat and he just mucks but the virtual daaler can't distinquish these things and this is the fairest way, and this is a pretty normal industry standard feature anwyay. If he had clicked fold then you wouldn't have seen.
    Posted by scotty77
     Thanks Scotty, Just thought that if I am due to show first, then he can muck without me seeing his cards.

    Ps-- can everyone see what he mucked in hh, or just me?
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  • oynutteroynutter Member Posts: 4,773
    edited August 2012
    Another question--- I was wondering if my notes on him will still be there when he gets his name changed?--lol
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  • OopnorthOopnorth Member Posts: 157
    edited August 2012
    I have nothing to say, I just wanted to see if my picture appeared when i posted.......
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  • The_Don90The_Don90 Member Posts: 9,818
    edited August 2012
    In Response to Re: Is this really fair?:
    He didn't muck he checked back.  In a live scenario the dealer would have asked for both players to table their hand.  Fair enough in a live scenario you woulda snap said boat and he just mucks but the virtual daaler can't distinquish these things and this is the fairest way, and this is a pretty normal industry standard feature anwyay. If he had clicked fold then you wouldn't have seen.
    Posted by scotty77
    I think in a live event in some card rooms you can delcare i want to see my opponents cards and they have to show. Certainly in Genting Edinburgh that is the case, and i know at the UKIPT in DTD if you asked on the river before the final action they had to show their cards at showdown. 

    So im guessing the hand history just makes up that we dont have the power to ask,

    What i dont think is fair is that not everyone knows of this feature. But then again who am i to tell them. 
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  • aussie09aussie09 Member Posts: 8,033
    edited August 2012

    i like cake


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  • GREGHOGGGREGHOGG Member Posts: 7,155
    edited August 2012
    In Response to Re: Is this really fair?:
    i like cake
    Posted by aussie09
    I like cake too

    But back to the discussion the hand history feature that oynutter highlights!  This feature is sooooo important for establishing reads on players and ofc it's fair everyone has the same information.
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  • dieddied Member Posts: 63
    edited August 2012
    I'm more concerned about your failure to extract any value out of a house.
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  • AllInKevAllInKev Member Posts: 101
    edited August 2012
    In Response to Re: Is this really fair?:
    I'm more concerned about your failure to extract any value out of a house.
    Posted by died
    Cant believe there's been so many posts and so long for someone to say this lol
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  • shaun09shaun09 Member Posts: 1,606
    edited August 2012
    And yes anybody who got delt cards in that hand, can see the HH and see the mucked cards of people who were still in the hand
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