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Is the river a bet/fold?
TommyD
Member Posts: 4,389
Villain is a good solid reg, can be loose but not ultra loose. Villain is a winning player at this level. He knows me, I know him. He used to not make too many moves against me but the dynamic has changed a little in the last couple of months, he's adding the odd move against me more and more. All the usual critique is welcome. I freely admit I have butchered this hand in several places.
| Player | Action | Cards | Amount | Pot | Balance |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| TommyD | Small blind | £1.00 | £1.00 | £722.90 | |
| x | Big blind | £2.00 | £3.00 | £496.90 | |
| Your hole cards |
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| TommyD | Raise | £5.00 | £8.00 | £717.90 | |
| x | Call | £4.00 | £12.00 | £492.90 | |
| Flop | |||||
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| x | Check | ||||
| TommyD | Bet | £9.00 | £21.00 | £708.90 | |
| x | Raise | £27.00 | £48.00 | £465.90 | |
| TommyD | Raise | £50.00 | £98.00 | £658.90 | |
| x | Call | £32.00 | £130.00 | £433.90 | |
| Turn | |||||
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| x | Check | ||||
| TommyD | Check | ||||
| River | |||||
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| x | Check | ||||
| TommyD | Bet | £65.00 | £195.00 | £593.90 | |
| x | Raise | £242.00 | £437.00 | £191.90 | |
| TommyD | ? | ||||
Comments
Can i ask why you didnt bet the turn, was it for deception / pot control. etc??
I think far too often ppl put in large bets / raises on the flop with the nuts.. and as soon as they dont have the nuts anymore they shut down as if to say, well the pots big enough i'll just hope to get to showdown and win 50bb's. Yet there is still so much value in the hand at the point ppl shut down.
When you check back the turn you are saying "hi i dont have the nuts anymore, but also i dont have any bluffs / semi bluffs" couple that with your small river lead and its screaming that you are going for thin value. You are kind of levelling yourself, under repping a hand on the turn then leading small on the river, you literally have no idea if you are inducing a bluff here or what..
2.5x pre is fine imo, and good if we're raising a fair amount of buttons especially with hands that play well against his flatting range, small pairs, trashy suited As,Ks,Qs,Js, etc.
3/4 on flop is fine IP when checked to, i prob make it like £6.50-8 if my keyboard is nearby and i can be botehrd to type. When pot is 21 and he c/r 3x I get excited but i'm never clicking it back with an SPR of 10:1... unless his steaming and this will induce a spite raise. Would much rather raise to like £90 or summin.
Turn; I dont quite understand the flop click back, check turn. Not sure what the plan is here......Only a K is worse then a A here imo, so i prob bet 65-90 now for protection, worst case scenario it'll block a lead from villain on river.
River; as played, when board pairs i'm just checking behind and notching hand down to a misplayed flop. His hand looks insanely like JT,J7,77,(Possiby Jx as well i just dont know if he'll stack off with it here more than />20% of the time!!)... KQ if his a nit and not 3betting it pre.
Sick sigh fold
I'm 99.9% sure that Tommy is never folding the turn ever though
bet turn
sigh b/f river