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NL4 - Flopped straight facing river check-shove

PystermanPysterman Member Posts: 187
edited August 2012 in The Poker Clinic

This was a previous hand against the same player...

Pysterman Small blind  £0.02 £0.02 £4.12
APRIL49 Big blind  £0.04 £0.06 £4.25
 Your hole cards
  • A
  • A
   
lozelle05 Fold     
jofushou11 Raise  £0.08 £0.14 £2.32
jo_english Fold     
Pysterman Raise  £0.36 £0.50 £3.76
APRIL49 Fold     
jofushou11 Call  £0.30 £0.80 £2.02
Flop
  
  • 3
  • J
  • 2
   
Pysterman Bet  £0.60 £1.40 £3.16
jofushou11 Call  £0.60 £2.00 £1.42
Turn
  
  • K
   
Pysterman Bet  £1.50 £3.50 £1.66
jofushou11 All-in  £1.42 £4.92 £0.00
Pysterman Unmatched bet  £0.08 £4.84 £1.74
Pysterman Show
  • A
  • A
   
jofushou11 Show
  • J
  • 8
   
River
  
  • 8
   
jofushou11 Win Two Pairs, Jacks and 8s £4.47  £4.47
Shortly afterwards, this happened...
lozelle05 Small blind  £0.02 £0.02 £4.58
jofushou11 Big blind  £0.04 £0.06 £4.33
 Your hole cards
  • K
  • 10
   
RandomRiv Fold     
Pysterman Raise  £0.16 £0.22 £3.66
APRIL49 Fold     
lozelle05 Fold     
jofushou11 Call  £0.12 £0.34 £4.21
Flop
  
  • Q
  • A
  • J
   
jofushou11 Bet  £0.16 £0.50 £4.05
Pysterman Call  £0.16 £0.66 £3.50
Turn
  
  • 5
   
jofushou11 Bet  £0.16 £0.82 £3.89
Pysterman Call  £0.16 £0.98 £3.34
River
  
  • 5
   
jofushou11 Check     
Pysterman Bet  £0.49 £1.47 £2.85
jofushou11 All-in  £3.89 £5.36 £0.00
Pysterman
OK, I know that the initial raise was slightly questionable and I perhaps should have reraised the flop (I was trying to trap, knowing he would most likely keep pushing with a pair), but as played and given the history from first hand above...

Should I call this off? How often does he have the flush (or, unlikely, full house) here?
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  • rancidrancid Member Posts: 5,945
    edited August 2012
    snap )
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  • grantorinograntorino Member Posts: 4,710
    edited August 2012
    Why o why are you not raising the flop? You are missing a tonne of value, he won't fold anything and there are a lot of cards that can slow him down

    Raise turn

    Bet river bigger, as played idk maybe sighfold, but his line is really stupid I prob call in game
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  • LOL_RAISELOL_RAISE Member Posts: 2,188
    edited August 2012
    raise flop/turn fold river
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  • The_Don90The_Don90 Member Posts: 9,814
    edited August 2012
    Raise flop, Raise fold turn, fold river. 
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  • Lambert180Lambert180 Member Posts: 12,197
    edited August 2012
    Opening pre is fine with KTs, I probably bet full pot on the flop cos you'll get called by virtually everything. On the turn, I'd bet close to full pot again. Think you gotta fold river the way you've played it.
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  • Curt360x27Curt360x27 Member Posts: 490
    edited August 2012
    Don't fold river.
    Like others have said get more money in on the flop and turn.

    Although he has you beat this time, I think the vast majority of the time you are ahead.
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  • waynecwaynec Member Posts: 1,023
    edited August 2012
    In Response to Re: NL4 - Flopped straight facing river check-shove:
    Don't fold river. Like others have said get more money in on the flop and turn. Although he has you beat this time, I think the vast majority of the time you are ahead.
    Posted by Curt360x27
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