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Line Check

mattlessmattless Member Posts: 194
edited August 2012 in The Poker Clinic
Haven't played this guy much, but pretty sure he is a decent reg. Just want to check all streets are ok. whats best on river c/f, c/c b/c b/f really don't know.
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
lynne1950 Small blind   £0.10 £0.10 £14.76
fisherking Big blind   £0.20 £0.30 £11.22
  Your hole cards
  • J
  • J
     
chrisofl Call   £0.20 £0.50 £3.40
Grim89 Fold        
mattless Raise   £1.20 £1.70 £19.79
x Call   £1.20 £2.90 £52.71
lynne1950 Fold        
fisherking Fold        
chrisofl Fold        
Flop
   
  • 8
  • 3
  • 9
     
mattless Bet   £1.60 £4.50 £18.19
x Call   £1.60 £6.10 £51.11
Turn
   
  • 10
     
mattless Bet   £4.58 £10.68 £13.61
x Call   £4.58 £15.26 £46.53
River
   
  • 2
     
mattless Check        
x Bet   £8.20 £23.46 £38.33
mattless Call   £8.20 £31.66 £5.41
x Show
     
mattless Show
     
        
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  • Lambert180Lambert180 Member Posts: 12,197
    edited August 2012
    I probably bet more on the flop, about £2-£2.20, also probably a little bit more on turn.

    River-wise, I think you can disregard folding whether it be c/f or b/f because you only got £13 behind with a pot of £15 and an OP on  a board that aint the wettest board in the world (not the dryest either).

    C/C allows him to bluff off his missed straight and flush draws, would be helpful if you knew if he gave up on the river with missed draws or not.

    I probably C/C because I think aren't that many hands you can get value from.
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  • grantorinograntorino Member Posts: 4,710
    edited August 2012
    Why so big pre?

    River is a really tough spot imo. I'm tempted to c/f, can't see much value in betting, maybe c/c
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  • N1CKN1CK Member Posts: 1,453
    edited August 2012
    In Response to Re: Line Check:
    Why so big pre? River is a really tough spot imo. I'm tempted to c/f, can't see much value in betting, maybe c/c
    Posted by grantorino
    he says viln is decent reg, what do you narrow his range to when he calls the turn?
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  • Lambert180Lambert180 Member Posts: 12,197
    edited August 2012
    In Response to Re: Line Check:
    big pre ? seems standard well a £1 is standard after a lipm so only extra 20 p lol  looks like a set of 8s or 9s to me maybe a 10 but i think u are beat more often then not
    Posted by IDONKCALLU
    When was 5x a standard open at 20NL?
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  • rancidrancid Member Posts: 5,945
    edited August 2012
    if we check blankety blank river then we snap call don't we :S
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  • Lambert180Lambert180 Member Posts: 12,197
    edited August 2012
    Sorry, I mis-read the first post and thought you were saying it's standard to open 5x (first into the pot)
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  • grantorinograntorino Member Posts: 4,710
    edited August 2012
    In Response to Re: Line Check:
    In Response to Re: Line Check : he says viln is decent reg, what do you narrow his range to when he calls the turn?
    Posted by N1CK
    Ok, I freely admit this hand confuses me, so everything I say may be wrong

    What worse calls if we bet

    What worse vbets if we check

    What bluffs if we check

    I think all these ranges are pretty narrow v a reg with no history. I do think though if we check he checks behind a lot
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  • rancidrancid Member Posts: 5,945
    edited August 2012
    In Response to Re: Line Check:
    In Response to Re: Line Check : Ok, I freely admit this hand confuses me, so everything I say may be wrong What worse calls if we bet What worse vbets if we check What bluffs if we check I think all these ranges are pretty narrow v a reg with no history. I do think though if we check he checks behind a lot
    Posted by grantorino

    confused.com
    when oppo calls flop & turn I would think range is quite wide but most likely holds a draw, maybe 1 pr/2 prs & sets in order

    fink c/c river is good here
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  • percival09percival09 Member Posts: 3,804
    edited August 2012
    I'd say you're good here

    if thats a river vbet its kinda weird. I'd probz expect him to put you all in or bet smaller. Wouldn't be surprised if had like Axdd


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  • grantorinograntorino Member Posts: 4,710
    edited August 2012
    In Response to Re: Line Check:
    In Response to Re: Line Check : confused.com when oppo calls flop & turn I would think range is quite wide but most likely holds a draw, maybe 1 pr/2 prs & sets in order fink c/c river is good here
    Posted by rancid
    I don't think he's always v strong on turn, I think a set is really unlikely

    However his flush draws will often have 2 overs and raise flop, the T will also bring in some draws or give him a pair, think he has showdown value on river a lot, and if he doesn't it's not really an attractive bluffing spot imo. But he could be bluffing or vbetting thin, who knows, maybe c/c is best
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  • N1CKN1CK Member Posts: 1,453
    edited August 2012
    i dont think hes a decent reg fwiw, our range is very strong here and bluffing is pretty bad, he should raise flopped sets vs our range?

    we have blockers to some straight draws, i would expect him to have busted diamonds alot here so i think cc is best and if he shows a set of tens its like fu
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  • grantorinograntorino Member Posts: 4,710
    edited August 2012
    Don't expect a set.

    He may bluff diamonds, but does he bluff Tdx, we have Jd, surely some of the diamond combos raise flop or pre

    Meh, whatever I'm tired and confused
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  • N1CKN1CK Member Posts: 1,453
    edited August 2012
    would you play the turn any differnent say if you had AA or KK?
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  • LOL_RAISELOL_RAISE Member Posts: 2,188
    edited August 2012
    he should be pretty strong preflop to cc a 6x raise with a 17bb shortie limping if he is good  c/f river imo.
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  • mattlessmattless Member Posts: 194
    edited August 2012
    Don't know why I went so big pre, one of those things you look back on and say "why did I do that, I never do that..." It didn't feel like a set in play as thought he would raise turn. He had 109, but can I fold blank river???? Not sure I'm good enough
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