owat kev,when playing the dtd i find being patiant is key early in the tournies, there,s no rush, pick your spots especially in position,and if you lose a big pot say quarter or your stack dont worry theres still time to build your stack up...patiance is your friend my friend..
In Response to Re: hi tikay:thanx for your help and advise i will play on Monday and use your adviuse speak to u on tuersday
regards Kev
Some helpful hints, based on what I & others saw last night. I hope other regulars will help here, too. This is just Level One stuff, & does not apply to more experienced players. 1) You CANNOT play every hand. You were limping in, even calling raises after limping, with stuff like J-2 & K-5 offsuit. YOU CANNOT DO THIS. Ever. Look for made hands (pairs), suited connectors, or paint/paint. THROW EVERYTHING ELSE AWAY PRE-FLOP. 2) Try to limit yourself to playing, say, one hand every 2 orbits or so. (Unless you find a very big hand). In the Forum DTD on Monday you will have THREE Tourneys on the go at the same time, so you won't get bored. You need to tighten up a lot. 3) Try to ONLY enter a pot with a Raise - don't limp in, ever. If you get a caller(s), & you miss the flop but they bet into you, just fold. If they check to you, even if you miss the flop, bet. 4) Bet properly. It is no good betting 20p into a 3 quid pot, you will get called by anything, & if you have a decent hand, you want paying for it. So bet bigger. 5) Pre-Flop raises. If you have a made hand (a pair), suited connectors, or paint/paint, & the pot has not been opened, make your opening bet THREE Big Blinds. If you make it 2 Bigs, you WILL get multi callers, & you might struggle down the streets with some hands. At this stage, we really only want ONE caller, so raise properly. I hope those things help, & if you follow those, & get a bit of luck (we ALL need luck in Tourneys) you should at least run deep in one of those three Forum DTD Tourneys. Your Target is to finish in the TOP HALF of the field in all three of them. You might also consider joining one of the Teams, these are nothing to do with Sky Poker as such, but they are really helpful, your Team-mates will give you good advice, support you, & you just have a bunch of fun. There are a whole load of good Teams, including Hit Squad, Team 51, TKP, TPT, & Leg-Ends. Go have a look at this Board for more details, HERE Let me know next Tuesday how you get on in the Forum DTD on Monday please Kev, & good luck. Posted by Tikay10
In Response to Re: hi tikay:thank you for your help and advise i will look forward to monday.
kindy regards spoony21 (aka Kev)
Hi Spoony. The Monday Forum DTD Tournies are................ 7.15pm DTD1 Deepstack - 5000 Chips - 12min Blinds 7.45pm DTD2 Deepstack - 5000 Chips - 12min Blinds 8.30pm DTD3 NLH - 2500 Chips - 10min Blinds The 2 deepstacks are a leisurely pace at 12min blinds, so you can afford to sit back and wait for a monster. I have final tabled in these a number of times by just playing 1 or 2 premium hands an hour in the first 2 hours and folding everything else. If you want to run deep then we should only be getting into the pot with hands like AKs, QQ, KK, AA in the early stages of the deepstacks until we have learnt the basics, especially on a Monday night due to the amount of runners and Never Ever Limp into a pot with these hands. If the blind levels are still low 25/50 - 75/100 for instance you don't want a multi-way pot so make your raise much bigger than normal something like 3-4x raise pre-flop in the early stages with these types of hands. After the first 2 hours you can afford to widen your range a little with smaller pairs 88, 99, 1010, JJ for instance, but don't try to play them out of position. The first 1-2 hours in the deepstacks are critical so by only playing premium hands and playing them strongly we should be able to build an above average stack for the later stages of the tourny. DTD 3 is NLH with only a 2500 starting stack, so there is no room for fishing or set mining. If we are going to enter a pot we need to bet strongly with our premium hands. You will get called by players with any 2 cards pre-flop in this tourny so we need to make sure we have a made hand. Unfortunately the callers with "any 2" will sometimes get them through, but be assured they will never be winning with these hands in the long run. I hope you are able to take in some of the basics from the posts in this thread, it can sometimes be a lot to take in so just try to remember the simple stuff and use it to the best of your ability. Best of luck Pokertrev (TPT Captain) Posted by POKERTREV
I've only been playing just over a year so maybe i know where you're coming from. I'm an ex maths teacher so saw it as a game to try to improve at and was looking for the best way. Here's what i did at the start. I'm retired so i had a bit of time,
1. Got Harrington book vol 1. It's dead readable even though the poker world thinks its a little out of date. Take no notice at this stage. The random generator idea can be ignored TBH. 2. Make a sheet of hds to enter with in certain positions. Your mind can 'go' when you get nervy. 3. Bet sizing can be 1/2 pot dry, 3/4 wet and pot monsoon! Stick to it as you won't play often enough for players to have reads. 3. Don't play cash...learn this aspect first...cash is different and will be costly. 4. Look upon your entry fee as an investment. Makes little notes on paper about particular hands that you want to look at later on the site. 5. write down your statistics at each break then you will see how often you play pots. Aim for 30% maximum. 6. Never limp into a pot. 7. Keep a paper/computer record of how you got on ...generally. Not just win/loss...initially that doesn't matter.(i had 6/7 losing months when i first sarted but was stil enjoying it). 8 Give yourself a goal/target. Eg get to first break, top half, get a bounty with 'correct' play not just lucky suck out. 9. Learn the extras as you go...pot odds, equity. You will have to study articles and other books though. Something called pokerstove will tell you whether your call was actually correct and so on but i've only been using it recently after i've played looking at my 'problem' hands. Probably better off putting them into the poker clinc and getting good advice. I promise you that in a year you will be offering advice to others about the errors they made playing. TBH its only an opinion and there are lots of factors in poker. 10. Enjoy the game for what it is. If its not your main financial income then look upon it as a hobby needing some cash spent on it. However only spend what you see as 'bunce' on it. If you do then you won't be playing with scared money. There is a buzz when you win a hand. Catching on the river is cruel but there is elation for you. One day you will get a great result or even win and the die may be cast. Why not join a team(i'm in Hitsquad) and play the DTD on a monday. Playing three is a little hairy at first but they are staggered a little. Its fun , there's camaraderie and some friendly banter. If you do well you've helped the team....not so well...so what? And there's team colours to earn in Hitsquad for a top ten position...another goal. Look in Team talk in the poker forum...no fee, just fun.
I hope these pointers help. Its funny because i was dead lucky in poker. After 8 days of reading Harrington, i actually won my EVER first live tournament in a casino with a very basic strategy. It pushed me into learning more though.... PS Watch the sky progs and lesson progs and make notes....i've still got mine. PPS Enjoyment is the key...if its not then don't do it. Money is NOT the reason to play. Play within your budget as it can become a problem otherwise. The book Mental Game of Poker by Jared Tendhler is a good one for its psychology ......cheers PPP Sorry i got carried away..
I was gonna write a lengthy reply Spoony but it seems that everyone has got it pretty much covered. A few things I don't think people have mentioned (I could be wrong)...
1. I know it can be hard sometimes but avoid the temptation to slowplay big hands. For one, when you continuation bet a flop, it's probably the one bet you'll make that will tend to get the least respect as it's seen as something that's pretty standard to do at least 50%+ of the time (whether that's correct or not is another matter).
So... A) it's less respected than bets on later rounds (so people will call with worse hands) and...
it's when there are still 2 cards to come, so, assuming people play down to the river, they are twice as likely to hit their flush, straight, 2pair etc and so are more willing to call. People are reluctant to call the turn if they are drawing to very few outs, whereas they are much more inclined to call if they have 2 chances to hit them, so charge them for the priviledge of waiting for their outs.
has any 1 got any advice for me im new here i only been playing poker for few days ever since my goldfish taught me not very good mind good at a staring contest but not good at poker Posted by IDONKCALLU
Yes - DONT Take advice from Goldfish - they usually forget their holding cards before it even gets to the flop.
thank you all for your advise and tips ,i look forward to playing in the dtd on Monday for the first time, do i need to join a tean? if so how do i go about it? who would want me?lol. Its been really nice of you all to send so time posting on this thread i really appriciate it. lets hope i can retain some of the info and change my poker fortunes lol once again many thanks every one Spoony21 (akaKevin) (aka KC) Posted by spoony21
Hi Spoony
You can play as an independent. On monday a list comes in the general forum with red writing. Put your name in there "yes pls" and as "IND" then you MUST register for each of the DTD!,DTD2 and DTD3(or has sky done it for you?). You could have a look at the different teams in team talk, make a decision and apply. There's no rush and it really is only played for fun. make a list of problem hands as you play and put them in the clinic on tuesday to get advice. Then you're improving as you play which is the aim, isn't it. Hope to see you there but don't go stealing my chips will you? All the best....
thank you all for your advise and tips ,i look forward to playing in the dtd on Monday for the first time, do i need to join a tean? if so how do i go about it? who would want me?lol. Its been really nice of you all to send so time posting on this thread i really appriciate it. lets hope i can retain some of the info and change my poker fortunes lol once again many thanks every one Spoony21 (akaKevin) (aka KC) Posted by spoony21
Kevin, i have sent you a pm, personal message explaining all!!
Dave Hitman Harvey
Hitsquad Founder & Captain, [100 members & all been Fun]!!
What a great thread and really shows what the community on Sky Poker are all about!
Can't really think of anything to add to the excellent advice so far. I'd just say take your time, do your 'education' at the low levels where losing some buy ins here or there won't hurt and never be scared to ask any questions on the forum or indeed on the TV channel.
Make sure you let us know how its going too. Always nice to see how new players start off their journey, and interesting too....and by finding this forum and getting involved you have just made your starting period in poker SOOOO much easier!
In Response to Re: hi tikay : Hi Spoony You can play as an independent. On monday a list comes in the general forum with red writing. Put your name in there "yes pls" and as "IND" then you MUST register for each of the DTD!,DTD2 and DTD3(or has sky done it for you?). You could have a look at the different teams in team talk, make a decision and apply. There's no rush and it really is only played for fun. make a list of problem hands as you play and put them in the clinic on tuesday to get advice. Then you're improving as you play which is the aim, isn't it. Hope to see you there but don't go stealing my chips will you? All the best.... Posted by profman15
Just to confirm, so that spoony knows, I have arranged for him to be Registered by Sky Poker for the three DTD Tournies on Monday.
His name should appear in the Lobby sometime on Monday morning. If it does not, let me know immediately.
thank you all for your advise and tips ,i look forward to playing in the dtd on Monday for the first time, do i need to join a tean? if so how do i go about it? who would want me?lol. Its been really nice of you all to send so time posting on this thread i really appriciate it. lets hope i can retain some of the info and change my poker fortunes lol once again many thanks every one Spoony21 (akaKevin) (aka KC) Posted by spoony21
Morning Kev.
As Proffy said, no, you do not HAVE to join as Team, that is up to you. The Teams are nothing to do with Sky Poker as such, but we try to support them because, on balance, we think they are generally a good thing.
There are pros & cons of course. Sometimes the Team rivalry gets a little ott, but for the most part, 90% of the time, it is good-natured banter, & as an individual, sometimes it's good to have solidarity with a bunch of like-minded poker players. I listed most of the bigger Teams in my earlier Posts - TKP, Team 51, THS, TPT, Leg Ends, etc. They are all different, each has their own ethos & character.
If you wish to be part of the (unofficial) Forum DTD thread, just Post your name on the Thread, & Chris (scouse red) & Michael (DTW Bandit) will take care of the rest.
Any further questions, Post them on this thread, & one of the lads will assist.
Before you play the Event, have a good read of the thrread again - it is jam-packed with good basic advice.
I don't mind if you go busto early in all three, bad beats happen, but I'm hoping you play to a better standard than last week. Remember, do NOT be calling with those K-3 & J-5 type hands, just THROW THEM AWAY!, PLAY LESS HANDS, you were playing every hand last week, & BET PROPERLY or don't bet at all.
Huge thanks to everyone who has Posted tips & advice on this thread.
Sky Poker are a very long way from perfect, likewise the Community, sometimes it gets a bit ott, but what other Poker Community would help out fellow players like this?
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This is terrific, so many people taking time to help, & offer good advice.
Oddly, no sign of "spoony" though!
If anyone happens to see him on a Table, can you please let him know about this?
Ta.
I've only been playing just over a year so maybe i know where you're coming from. I'm an ex maths teacher so saw it as a game to try to improve at and was looking for the best way.
Here's what i did at the start. I'm retired so i had a bit of time,
1. Got Harrington book vol 1. It's dead readable even though the poker world thinks its a little out of date. Take no notice at this stage. The random generator idea can be ignored TBH.
2. Make a sheet of hds to enter with in certain positions. Your mind can 'go' when you get nervy.
3. Bet sizing can be 1/2 pot dry, 3/4 wet and pot monsoon! Stick to it as you won't play often enough for players to have reads.
3. Don't play cash...learn this aspect first...cash is different and will be costly.
4. Look upon your entry fee as an investment. Makes little notes on paper about particular hands that you want to look at later on the site.
5. write down your statistics at each break then you will see how often you play pots. Aim for 30% maximum.
6. Never limp into a pot.
7. Keep a paper/computer record of how you got on ...generally. Not just win/loss...initially that doesn't matter.(i had 6/7 losing months when i first sarted but was stil enjoying it).
8 Give yourself a goal/target. Eg get to first break, top half, get a bounty with 'correct' play not just lucky suck out.
9. Learn the extras as you go...pot odds, equity. You will have to study articles and other books though. Something called pokerstove will tell you whether your call was actually correct and so on but i've only been using it recently after i've played looking at my 'problem' hands. Probably better off putting them into the poker clinc and getting good advice. I promise you that in a year you will be offering advice to others about the errors they made playing. TBH its only an opinion and there are lots of factors in poker.
10. Enjoy the game for what it is. If its not your main financial income then look upon it as a hobby needing some cash spent on it. However only spend what you see as 'bunce' on it. If you do then you won't be playing with scared money.
There is a buzz when you win a hand. Catching on the river is cruel but there is elation for you. One day you will get a great result or even win and the die may be cast.
Why not join a team(i'm in Hitsquad) and play the DTD on a monday. Playing three is a little hairy at first but they are staggered a little. Its fun , there's camaraderie and some friendly banter. If you do well you've helped the team....not so well...so what? And there's team colours to earn in Hitsquad for a top ten position...another goal. Look in Team talk in the poker forum...no fee, just fun.
I hope these pointers help.
Its funny because i was dead lucky in poker. After 8 days of reading Harrington, i actually won my EVER first live tournament in a casino with a very basic strategy. It pushed me into learning more though....
PS Watch the sky progs and lesson progs and make notes....i've still got mine.
PPS Enjoyment is the key...if its not then don't do it. Money is NOT the reason to play. Play within your budget as it can become a problem otherwise. The book Mental Game of Poker by Jared Tendhler is a good one for its psychology ......cheers
PPP Sorry i got carried away..
1. I know it can be hard sometimes but avoid the temptation to slowplay big hands. For one, when you continuation bet a flop, it's probably the one bet you'll make that will tend to get the least respect as it's seen as something that's pretty standard to do at least 50%+ of the time (whether that's correct or not is another matter).
So...
A) it's less respected than bets on later rounds (so people will call with worse hands) and...
You Know what....... I am gonna join a Team & Play The DTD!!!!
Car'nt WAIT!!!!
watch OUT hit />>>>they're choosey!!!!
You can play as an independent. On monday a list comes in the general forum with red writing. Put your name in there "yes pls" and as "IND" then you MUST register for each of the DTD!,DTD2 and DTD3(or has sky done it for you?). You could have a look at the different teams in team talk, make a decision and apply. There's no rush and it really is only played for fun. make a list of problem hands as you play and put them in the clinic on tuesday to get advice. Then you're improving as you play which is the aim, isn't it.
Hope to see you there but don't go stealing my chips will you? All the best....
Dave Hitman Harvey
Hitsquad Founder & Captain, [100 members & all been Fun]!!
GL, Enjoy!!
Gives me that good warm feeling again!! N1 All!!
His name should appear in the Lobby sometime on Monday morning. If it does not, let me know immediately.
All set!
As Proffy said, no, you do not HAVE to join as Team, that is up to you. The Teams are nothing to do with Sky Poker as such, but we try to support them because, on balance, we think they are generally a good thing.
There are pros & cons of course. Sometimes the Team rivalry gets a little ott, but for the most part, 90% of the time, it is good-natured banter, & as an individual, sometimes it's good to have solidarity with a bunch of like-minded poker players. I listed most of the bigger Teams in my earlier Posts - TKP, Team 51, THS, TPT, Leg Ends, etc. They are all different, each has their own ethos & character.
If you wish to be part of the (unofficial) Forum DTD thread, just Post your name on the Thread, & Chris (scouse red) & Michael (DTW Bandit) will take care of the rest.
Any further questions, Post them on this thread, & one of the lads will assist.
Before you play the Event, have a good read of the thrread again - it is jam-packed with good basic advice.
I don't mind if you go busto early in all three, bad beats happen, but I'm hoping you play to a better standard than last week. Remember, do NOT be calling with those K-3 & J-5 type hands, just THROW THEM AWAY!, PLAY LESS HANDS, you were playing every hand last week, & BET PROPERLY or don't bet at all.
Huge thanks to everyone who has Posted tips & advice on this thread.
Sky Poker are a very long way from perfect, likewise the Community, sometimes it gets a bit ott, but what other Poker Community would help out fellow players like this?
Awesome stuff, & I'm proud to be part of it.