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Ambitious call down, 30nl? thoughts?

DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
edited August 2012 in The Poker Clinic
1 noteable hand that V was invoved in.

They opened sb with Q5dd, bb called.

V flopped a flush draw on a T high board, led, and 4b/called off v AT, didn't get there.
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
GARAGE1 Small blind £0.15 £0.15 £11.39
xxxBig blind  £0.30 £0.45 £29.70
  Your hole cards
  • 10
  • A
     
niko38 Fold     
DOHHHHHHH Raise  £0.90 £1.35 £34.39
GARAGE1 Fold     
xxxCall  £0.60 £1.95 £29.10
Flop
   
  • 2
  • 2
  • 8
     
xxxCheck     
DOHHHHHHH Bet  £1.20 £3.15 £33.19
xxx Raise  £4.46 £7.61 £24.64
DOHHHHHHH Call  £3.26 £10.87 £29.93
Turn
   
  • J
     
xxxBet  £7.50 £18.37 £17.14
DOHHHHHHH Call  £7.50 £25.87 £22.43
River
   
  • 6
     
xxxAll-in  £17.14 £43.01 £0.00
DOHHHHHHH Call  £17.14 £60.15

Comments

  • offshootoffshoot Member Posts: 1,049
    edited August 2012
    I dont have a problem with it. He's not exactly repping much.
  • ybyb Member Posts: 1,471
    edited August 2012
    the fact that you have the Ac doesn't help matters
  • rancidrancid Member Posts: 5,945
    edited August 2012
    In Response to Re: Ambitious call down, 30nl? thoughts?:
    the fact that you have the Ac doesn't help matters
    Posted by yb

    +1 could have any FD though - seems to like any 2 suited )

    probably got 42ss !



  • NColleyNColley Member Posts: 1,178
    edited August 2012
    i bet he has quad 2s
  • pr1nnyraidpr1nnyraid Member Posts: 495
    edited August 2012

    Isn't one of your only notes that he lead with a FD last time?

    I guess the whole nature of a hero call is that you have more influence and feel on the dynamic of the game than the HH shows, therefore what 'should' be a fold (based on the HH), becomes a call.  

    So analysing a spot where a hero call might be good with just a hand history and basic notes is a bit flawed.

  • huuuuumehuuuuume Member Posts: 569
    edited August 2012
    its so dependent on your reads.  in game with the reads you're given it sounds like you're only worrying about naked flush draws that maybe picked up 2 pair on turn or river...so not a massive range.  if they lead out naked flush draws would they lead out mid/small pocket pairs on what they see as a safe flop and then decide to barrel???

    would be sick if he's one of those fun fish who play ak/aq like this.

    i think its pretty close and dont see a problem making the call....go with your first instinct.  hope you won
  • pr1nnyraidpr1nnyraid Member Posts: 495
    edited August 2012
    In Response to Re: Ambitious call down, 30nl? thoughts?:
    its so dependent on your reads.  in game with the reads you're given it sounds like you're only worrying about naked flush draws that maybe picked up 2 pair on turn or river...so not a massive range.  if they lead out naked flush draws would they lead out mid/small pocket pairs on what they see as a safe flop and then decide to barrel??? would be sick if he's one of those fun fish who play ak/aq like this. i think its pretty close and dont see a problem making the call....go with your first instinct.  hope you won
    Posted by huuuuume
    V c/r the flop then barrelled??
  • pr1nnyraidpr1nnyraid Member Posts: 495
    edited August 2012
    In Response to Re: Ambitious call down, 30nl? thoughts?:
    its so dependent on your reads.  in game with the reads you're given it sounds like you're only worrying about naked flush draws that maybe picked up 2 pair on turn or river...so not a massive range.  if they lead out naked flush draws would they lead out mid/small pocket pairs on what they see as a safe flop and then decide to barrel??? would be sick if he's one of those fun fish who play ak/aq like this. i think its pretty close and dont see a problem making the call....go with your first instinct.  hope you won
    Posted by huuuuume
    V c/r the flop then barrelled??
  • huuuuumehuuuuume Member Posts: 569
    edited August 2012
    In Response to Re: Ambitious call down, 30nl? thoughts?:
    In Response to Re: Ambitious call down, 30nl? thoughts? : V c/r the flop then barrelled??
    Posted by pr1nnyraid
    ignore that...missed the fact the we cbet.  thought villain had donked out
  • grantorinograntorino Member Posts: 4,710
    edited August 2012

    Get proper reads before you do this.

    Call down once you call flop c/r readless, but I dont really like flop without more reads, I'd fold v that massive c/r tbh. I also think theres an argument for 3betting flop rather than calling if you want to continue

    Think people giving villain way 2 narrow a range, overpairs plus some fds with a jack in his range

  • sighcallsighcall Member Posts: 497
    edited August 2012
    do we get to know if u won?
  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited August 2012
    In Response to Re: Ambitious call down, 30nl? thoughts?:
    do we get to know if u won?
    Posted by sighcall
    yea, I didn't win. 

    Was behind all the way he made a set on the river.

    ty for replies again. 
  • percival09percival09 Member Posts: 3,804
    edited August 2012
    think I'm gonna start playinh nl30 haha
  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited August 2012
    In Response to Re: Ambitious call down, 30nl? thoughts?:
    think I'm gonna start playinh nl30 haha
    Posted by percival09
    Everyone else seem to be! The tables are starting to look like 50nl looked 6 months ago :(


  • percival09percival09 Member Posts: 3,804
    edited August 2012
    ha just messing. Maybe when software gets better. for now tho time to spew £50 at nl50
  • percival09percival09 Member Posts: 3,804
    edited August 2012
    sh it it seems so soft for like a medium limit. £50nl is like $80nl
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