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have to fold the river here?

jams88jams88 Member Posts: 694
edited September 2012 in The Poker Clinic
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
mr_swine Small blind   £0.20 £0.20 £45.90
tatohead Big blind   £0.40 £0.60 £49.36
BILKOMGS Sit out        
  Your hole cards
  • 8
  • 8
     
VintageDP Raise   £1.20 £1.80 £38.20
jams88 Call   £1.20 £3.00 £59.43
bruiser59 Fold        
mr_swine Call   £1.00 £4.00 £44.90
tatohead Fold        
Flop
   
  • 8
  • J
  • J
     
mr_swine Bet   £2.00 £6.00 £42.90
VintageDP Call   £2.00 £8.00 £36.20
jams88 Raise   £8.40 £16.40 £51.03
mr_swine Fold        
VintageDP Call   £6.40 £22.80 £29.80
Turn
   
  • J
     
VintageDP Check        
jams88 Check        
River
   
  • 7
     
VintageDP Bet   £14.00 £36.80 £15.80
jams88 Fold        
VintageDP Muck        
VintageDP Win   £21.66   £37.46
VintageDP Return   £14.00 £1.14 £51.46
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  • percival09percival09 Member Posts: 3,804
    edited September 2012
    any reads/info? kinda depends if he's ever floating otf w/ 2 overs, but I suppose he'd just go for showdown with A high. QQ/KK/AA makes sense more often than not, even 1010. so yeah I probs muck
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  • jams88jams88 Member Posts: 694
    edited September 2012
    no reads as such new to this level so not sure whos a reg whos good ect. Havent seen this guy do anything too unusual in the 20mins or so i have been at the table. Can't see any hands he would call my raise on flop with then lead here must be a jack or overpair?

    Should i have bet turn to ensure he can't bluff at me? or do we like this line?
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  • ybyb Member Posts: 1,471
    edited September 2012
    haven't played cash on here for a while but iirc it's a super standard c/f from the turn onwards
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  • rancidrancid Member Posts: 5,945
    edited September 2012
    have to fold but oppo could be bluffing - it's posible but the majority your behind - ul nh

    but yeah it's super thin value on turn if your bet, so check it doon - does leave you open to a bluff but you could call if your curious enough + make notes

    do we ever call for info ) or let someone else pay the piper
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  • grantorinograntorino Member Posts: 4,710
    edited September 2012
    Nh, your flop raise is very big for that board
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  • rancidrancid Member Posts: 5,945
    edited September 2012
    In Response to Re: have to fold the river here?:
    Nh, your flop raise is very big for that board
    Posted by grantorino

    very true, oppo probably got a J )
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  • jams88jams88 Member Posts: 694
    edited September 2012
    In Response to Re: have to fold the river here?:
    Nh, your flop raise is very big for that board
    Posted by grantorino
    i figured with a lead and a call someone or both had a jack so was looking to get it in possibly on flop
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  • huuuuumehuuuuume Member Posts: 569
    edited September 2012
    snap fold.

    only worse hand he can have is 10 9 but he wont bet that river with it.  there is nothing that you beat imo
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