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Yuck flop spot deep, what's going on here?
DOHHHHHHH
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dijijcoiejoijeiwdjx what?
Guy can play, has moves, don't rly know what they r or what they mean tho.
| Player | Action | Cards | Amount | Pot | Balance |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| xxx | Small blind | £0.20 | £0.20 | £93.60 | |
| ravidixo07 | Big blind | £0.40 | £0.60 | £9.69 | |
| Jrvs | Sit out | ||||
| Your hole cards |
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| Flatcapper | Fold | ||||
| DOHHHHHHH | Raise | £1.20 | £1.80 | £150.52 | |
| johnnyd117 | Call | £1.20 | £3.00 | £46.47 | |
| xxx | Call | £1.00 | £4.00 | £92.60 | |
| ravidixo07 | Fold | ||||
| Flop | |||||
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| xxx | Check | ||||
| DOHHHHHHH | Bet | £2.40 | £6.40 | £148.12 | |
| johnnyd117 | Call | £2.40 | £8.80 | £44.07 | |
| xxx | Raise | £8.00 | £16.80 | £84.60 | |
| DOHHHHHHH | Fold | ||||
Comments
would be amazed if oppo ain't got a set
still call, see what happens on turn - at least you know oppo ain't got the nut flush init !
+1. ty for the reply.
Granted the call from the button weights the raiser's range slightly more towards strong hands but given that he can make "moves" and our friend Johnny has only called, I'd certainly think there's a good chance that he's on the draw, looking to semi-bluff...
I wouldn't be 3-betting but I'd certainly call here and reassess on later streets. Obviously that probably means paying him off on non-spade cards if he has a set... but I wouldn't beat myself up over that.
Yeah, his sizing is small but that doesn't mean he's only ever got a set. There are plenty of players that don't size their bets well and on this board I wouldn't even be surprised if he's just playing top-pair or something like 88 or TT.
I don't think one raise is enough to narrow down our opponents range to a set. I think there are at least as many draws and other hands as there are sets, so our odds to call here and the chances that we can keep the pot small down the streets make the call the right move to my eyes.
It's something that makes sense in the minds of not deep-thinking players: "I have top-pair, the pre-flop raiser is probably just c-betting and I'm likely to be beating the caller who can have a flush draw or weaker top-pair. I need to protect."
Not how I suspect you or I would play it but there is some thought there.
I don't think I'd be delighted paying off three streets, though I would likely call the turn and possibly the river if the draws don't come in, unless I think the oppo is never triple-barrelling and never overvalues top-pair.
I just don't like folding here unless I know that my opponent is good or plays purely ABC.
but with the nut flush draw I have to call, no?