Help with a live mtt structure please?

GREGHOGG

Hi all

I am helping to organise a fun poker/games night at my work

The evening will allow only about 3 hours for poker and we expect at least 30 players. Hopefully 50.

Can anyone suggest an mtt format and blind structure that would be suitable for this fast an mtt?

I was thinking about making it a "shootout" possibly as it will be easier to manage?

Cheers!

P.S the buyin will be £10 with some of this cost going to help raise funds. Are there any legal issues here/gambling licence?

J-Hartigan

In Response to Help with a live mtt structure please?:

Hi all I am helping to organise a fun poker/games night at my work The evening will allow only about 3 hours for poker and we expect at least 30 players. Hopefully 50. Can anyone suggest an mtt format and blind structure that would be suitable for this fast an mtt? I was thinking about making it a "shootout" possibly as it will be easier to manage? Cheers! P.S the buyin will be £10 with some of this cost going to help raise funds. Are there any legal issues here/gambling licence?
Posted by GREGHOGG

1,500 starting stack. (EDIT: If you only get 30 players, you could increase this to 2,000.)

20 min blind levels.

25/50

50/100

100/200

25/150/300

50/200/400

100/400/800

100/600/1,200

200/800/1,600

300/1,000/2,000

That should get you a result in 3 hours! Bear in mind, there'll be a LOT of early exits, so you might have scores of people standing on the rail twiddling their thumbs for the better part of 180 minutes...

J-Hartigan

As long as this is a private game, and you're not raking the prizepool, I don't see any legal issues.

Lambert180

10 minute blinds live, and not even professional dealers!!! You'll be lucky to get 1 hand per blind level lol.

Fast is good but think starting with 30xBB is pretty sick. Same structure as Hartigan but make it 50xBB (2500) starting so you can at least play some poker (even if it is for fun/charity). 20 mins is fine for a fast structure, if you want it ending in 3 hrs, but you probably get away with 25/30 mins with the shallow stacks to start.

Glenelg

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Hi all I am helping to organise a fun poker/games night at my work The evening will allow only about 3 hours for poker and we expect at least 30 players. 
Posted by GREGHOGG

You do know YOU can't win.  In fact, don't even play or you'll be looking for a new job! ;-)

J-Hartigan

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10 minute blinds live, and not even professional dealers!!! You'll be lucky to get 1 hand per blind level lol. Fast is good but think starting with 30xBB is pretty sick. Same structure as Hartigan but make it 50xBB (2500) starting so you can at least play some poker (even if it is for fun/charity). 20 mins is fine for a fast structure, if you want it ending in 3 hrs, but you probably get away with 25/30 mins with the shallow stacks to start.
Posted by Lambert180

Too many chips in play! It won't be over in three hours.

Lambert180

Well there's only 30 runners. Within 1 blind level, starting stack is 25xBB, 1 more and it's 12.5xBB, granted some will be out by then, but probably not enough to make the average stack very deep.

But hey ho, to be fair, I know nothing about creating tourney structures, so just my opinion (which is probably wrong lol).

mewillows

James has the structure spot on Greg. 

Glenelg

Just a thought - if it's a "fun" game with folk who've maybe not played that much, could antes possibly be a bit confusing?  

pomfrittes

  James is spot on with his structure but a little bit off beam re prize money, depending where the event will
  take place.  If in a pub max of £5.00 per head but limited to a total prize fund of £100. If in a private 
  members club £10.oo per head but not too sure on prize fund but maybe £500. Check out Gambling 
  Commission website for full details.  But providing it is kept quiet no probs m8.      

pomfrittes

  Forgot to add, if you worried at all about running it download Tournament Director software.

SoLack

Just go bowling imo

shaun09

I think JH knows what his talking about :P

profman15

How about snap...it's quicker!!!!!

J-Hartigan

In Response to Re: Help with a live mtt structure please?:

Well there's only 30 runners. Within 1 blind level, starting stack is 25xBB, 1 more and it's 12.5xBB, granted some will be out by then, but probably not enough to make the average stack very deep. But hey ho, to be fair, I know nothing about creating tourney structures, so just my opinion (which is probably wrong lol).
Posted by Lambert180

Here's the thing...

Greg says he wants the tournament to last no longer than three hours. So, with a 20 min clock, we can't let the game go beyond Level 9. Which means we need to "control" the number of big blinds in play.

Based on my structure, assuming Greg gets 50 runners, there'll be 75,000 chips in play (50 x 1,500). In the final level (1k/2k), that's a total of 37.5bbs. If the tournament is heads-up at this stage (which it should be), that's an average stack of 19bbs. This will obviously "force" the game to a quick conclusion.

Voila!

Yes, everyone's pretty shallow at the start, but there'll be some consolidation in the first few levels, which will allow post-flop poker to be played in the mid-stages.

Lambert180

Thanks for explaining James. As I say, I don't know much about creating MTT structures, and what you've said makes a lot of sense.

WP