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MTT - AK 4 bet or not

rancidrancid Member Posts: 5,945
edited September 2012 in The Poker Clinic

Ok so a little hand from last nights rebuy open shove a lot MTT

So I don't 4 bet because I am only getting 5 bet by better and the thought of being called by someone IP with me holding AK doesn't feel me with joy. So I flat totally disguised and all that jazz :()
edit: simply I don't want them to fold when I 4 bet and I don't want them to 5 bet shove )
The size of my 4 bet would commit me as I am never folding and I think they fold all except AA/KK maybe QQ
Don't think they ever 5 bet shove or flat with AQ for example
oppo B may flat a 4 bet with better as he may see me as a aggro spew monkey )

So flop comes down, flop is good - I flat flop because I am very likely ahead and I wanna see a blank turn and hopefully extract more from worse or guy behind goes mad. But should I raise for protection/value and look to get it in or do you think my line has some merits this deep

Then someone shoves, this is good for me right ?

How do you think this hand was played ? Opnions please people


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Reads just for GT )

both are only ever 5 betting with AA/KK maybe QQ given it's a rebuy
both are not flatting a 5 bet with worse, so if I 4 bet I will see folds 98% or the minority A or B may flat with suited paint, low-mid prs looking to stack me but no continuation unless they have me beat - looking at stack sizes I can't see  them flatting but it's like 2% they could
both oppo will flat 3 bets with worse including low-mid prs/suited conns/ nice connecting paint/ AQ/AJ
When we go to the flop, I am ok versus original raiser (a) - oppo is pretty wide here in this spot
not too sure what B is holding - could be big pair or big ace - some connecting paint aswel, minority could be suited conns
When A shoves over us, I say draw all day, could be a set though - but I think oppo would  raise to about half of their stack - not a shove with set me thinks <---- not a 100% read, but quite sure oppo turns up with draw more than a  set
ps. I don't think A or B ever would hardly ever flat my 4 bet with better, but it's possible from oppo B
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PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
rancid Small blind   50.00 50.00 6782.50
BigChicAQ Big blind   100.00 150.00 4020.00
  Your hole cards
  • A
  • K
     
A Raise   255.00 405.00 4761.25
B Raise   410.00 815.00 5030.00
paul10 Fold        
jonjo75 Fold        
rancid Call   360.00 1175.00 6422.50
BigChicAQ Fold        
A Call   155.00 1330.00 4606.25
Flop
   
  • K
  • 7
  • 2
     
rancid Check        
A Check        
B
Bet   665.00 1995.00 4365.00
rancid Call   665.00 2660.00 5757.50
A All-in   4606.25 7266.25 0.00
B Fold        
rancid

Comments

  • grantorinograntorino Member Posts: 4,710
    edited September 2012
    Maybe some reads?

    I prob supernit fold pre, or else 4b/c

    Flop meh, I fold 
  • AMYBRAMYBR Member Posts: 3,432
    edited September 2012
    If we are 4betting here it can only be to GII, which I dont hate with 50 bigs in online T.

    As our 4bet is likely to be bloated due to being OOP vs 2 I'd even toy with the idea of shipping givien that 810 is already sitting out there and oppos relative stack sizes.  If they are just mucking about/lvling am sometimes just going to be happy ending the hand here rather than getting into a grimo spot post.  But the minning of utg opener is a worry.  (Dont have time to read the GT reads :p).  Prob 4betcall, ship or fold depending on read/dynamic.
  • percival09percival09 Member Posts: 3,804
    edited September 2012
    I like 4betting. AKs is just too nice not to 4bet. 

    As played I know I probs call in play because I like rivering full houses vs flushes. But I think it'd be a good lay down as played
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