Fold, call or shove?

sillymid

ayer	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
sillymid	Small blind		50.00	50.00	2765.00
186	Big blind		100.00	150.00	6722.50
	Your hole cards	5 5
truelove	Call		100.00	250.00	2063.75
jimb0d1	Call		100.00	350.00	7082.50
suzyQ	Call		100.00	450.00	1362.50
sillymid	Call		50.00	500.00	2715.00
186	Raise		100.00	600.00	6622.50
truelove	Call		100.00	700.00	1963.75
jimb0d1	Call		100.00	800.00	6982.50
suzyQ	Call		100.00	900.00	1262.50
sillymid	All-in		2715.00	3615.00	0.00
186	Call		2615.00	6230.00	4007.50
truelove	Fold
jimb0d1	Fold
suzyQ	Fold
sillymid	Show	5 5
186	Show	A A
Flop
		4 8 Q
Turn
		K
River
		6
186	Win	Pair of Aces	6230.00		10237.50

sillymid

I had already made up the small blind and didn’t want to pay another 100 chips to see a flop I was probably going to miss. As everyone else wanted to get to the flop, I thought I would either give up or shove. Maybe I should have been suspicious of the BB min raise, but I was hoping for folds all round or take a flip against one player.

 

Thoughts please.

profman15

Hi S

For me its too early for this and anyone calling is either 46% equity or has you a 20% dog if he has a higher pair(no one will call with lower pr, beleive me)...Your csi= 20 so there's better places with 4 players to act behind and better hands certainly, i feel.
sorry mate but for me its a BIG FOLD
GL at the tables m8

percival09

it's a pretty easy flat call pre

shoving is suicidal and folding is pretty awful too

sillymid

Thanks for the advice

Lambert180

Definitely not shove, definitely not fold.

Easy flat call. When you have hands like 55, you want it to go multi-way because when you flop your set you've got a much better chance of getting paid. Perfect example here, if you call and miss, you lose very little, if you call and hit, you stack someone who has AA.

grantorino

dont think shoving 1st time it comers to u would be that bad, calling better though. shoving when you did is spew, you rep nothing and guy who raised never folds

BorinLoner

Both times the betting comes to you on this hand, the appropriate thing is to call. On both occasions the direct odds you are being offered are 9:1. Those are the correct pot odds to set-mine with even if you don't win a single chip on the flop when you hit. In fact, they're better odds than you need since you flop a set a 1/8 times.

When you shove, your hand is not believable as a big hand, since you would have raised the first time it came to you with AA, KK, QQ or AK. When the big blind makes the min-raise, you can know that he's got to be strong. Although his raise sizing is terrible, we know even bad players would make a big raise if they wanted everyone to fold. You'd be very, very lucky to be racing when you get it in.