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could i have played hand better post flop???

lerkylerky Member Posts: 38
edited September 2012 in The Poker Clinic
hi 250 guarentee last 10 8 cash both players 20plus bbs deep
i in big blind with aa receive min raise from small blind and decide to just call for deception

board k 10 6 two clubs player leads out half pot i re raise to pot he calls turn card k !
player checks i check back river 10
so board k k 10 10 6 no flush arived he checks so i go 3/4 pot  he waits then min raises i fold!

this seemed to cause a stir on the table and was told i shoulda checked the river but surely if he on draw he folding to my bet plus i was effectively repping the king in the end so y would i check river with the supposide nuts ?

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  • Lambert180Lambert180 Member Posts: 12,197
    edited September 2012
    Your first mistake was not raising pre IMO, you wanna be trying your best to get it all in pre when you have AA and it's usually easier with 20xBB when someone has already shown an interst.

    Once he bet flop, I'd just shove.

    No point making him fold when he has a draw because you'd be bluffing with the best hand. You could possibly check if you did have the K to let him bluff with all his missed draws. If he has a missed draw, you get called 0% of the time, but if you check, he probably bets more than 0% of the time. But that's assuming he only has a draw obv.
  • lerkylerky Member Posts: 38
    edited September 2012
    yer i totally agree with pre flop only reason i flatted is because he was v big stacked so put him on a steal.
    i agree now on flop i should have just slammed as you say he shown an interest in the flop ie either the flush draw or hit top pair so would of got the call either way.
    originally my thoughts were was i wrong to check back on turn as if i did have king and hit 3 of a kind why would i check back with a flush draw on the board.
    thats what makes me think he may not have had the f/h and just saw my check as weakness ie putting me on that draw .then allowing me to stab at the river by checking it.
    v interesting cheers
  • MohicanMohican Member Posts: 1,435
    edited September 2012
    Hi Lerky,
                glad you posted about this and i managed to find the hand- hand id #568057180
    lerky Big blind   300.00 300.00 9255.00
      Your hole cards
    • 9
    • 4
         
    Mohican Fold        
    allbundy Fold        
    boomerboy Fold        
    alexmac194 Raise   600.00 900.00 14527.50
    lerky Call   300.00 1200.00 8955.00
    Flop
       
    • 10
    • K
    • 10
         
    lerky Check        
    alexmac194 Bet   300.00 1500.00 14227.50
    lerky Raise   850.00 2350.00 8105.00
    alexmac194 Call   550.00 2900.00 13677.50
    Turn
       
    • K
         
    lerky Check        
    alexmac194 Check        
    River
       
    • 3
         
    lerky Bet   1800.00 4700.00 6305.00
    alexmac194 Raise   3600.00 8300.00 10077.50
    lerky Fold        
    alexmac194 Muck        
    alexmac194 Win   6500.00   16577.50
    alexmac194 Return   1800.00 0.00 18377.50
  • MohicanMohican Member Posts: 1,435
    edited September 2012
    I was talking with about this at the time in the chat box because of your comment 'at least I knew where i stood on the river' or sumat like that. I said at the time you where better off check/calling or check folding river, rather than bet/folding. You are only ever beating a bluff and with him calling your check raise on the flop he's most likely got a 10 or a K and trying to rep the bigger FH isn't going to work with the action in the hand already. Even if he's got a 10 he's still gonna call so all your betting options here are going to see you lose chips.
     It was nice to have a grownup conversation about the hand in the chat box cos usually I get told to F off or summat similar when I try to talk about hands.
  • grantorinograntorino Member Posts: 4,710
    edited September 2012
    Pre can be good depending on reads

    Prob c/f river, definitely don't lead
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