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Was this play really that bad?
ledders729
Member Posts: 14
| Player | Action | Cards | Amount | Pot | Balance |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| u_owe_me | Small blind | 300.00 | 300.00 | 262.50 | |
| RedRicky | Big blind | 600.00 | 900.00 | 11760.00 | |
| Your hole cards |
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| brit1806 | Fold | ||||
| badbeatash | Fold | ||||
| EBBERDON | Raise | 1800.00 | 2700.00 | 14170.00 | |
| ledders729 | Call | 1800.00 | 4500.00 | 15200.00 | |
| u_owe_me | Fold | ||||
| RedRicky | Fold | ||||
| Flop | |||||
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| EBBERDON | Bet | 600.00 | 5100.00 | 13570.00 | |
| ledders729 | Call | 600.00 | 5700.00 | 14600.00 | |
| Turn | |||||
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| EBBERDON | Bet | 1200.00 | 6900.00 | 12370.00 | |
| ledders729 | Raise | 5250.00 | 12150.00 | 9350.00 | |
| EBBERDON | Raise | 8100.00 | 20250.00 | 4270.00 | |
| ledders729 | Raise | 8100.00 | 28350.00 | 1250.00 | |
| EBBERDON | All-in | 4270.00 | 32620.00 | 0.00 | |
| ledders729 | Call | 220.00 | 32840.00 | 1030.00 | |
| EBBERDON | Show |
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| ledders729 | Show |
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| River | |||||
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| ledders729 | Win | Full House, Aces and 10s | 32840.00 | 33870.00 | |
Comments
The flop comes down and as far as I am concerned, I am in fairly decent shape. OK, there are 2 clubs on the board, but if he is drawing to a flush, then good luck.
The turn. I don't think this really changes anything, I reckon I am still in good shape. No made flush, and a pretty dry board. I am only being beat by a set at this stage, but don't put him on Aces or Tens, as I am already holding A 10. I am beating any other Ace at this stage. So I'm calling here.
The River. Made a full house.
Where did I get it wrong though? Yes, I won the hand, but then had to see comments in the chat box calling me a fish!!
The bit for me is the bet on the flop. If a set is going to bet a flop so small, it's asking for trouble in my view.
Any thoughts??
I don't think you did anything too wrong. I might consider folding pre but I'm a nit. Once you've called pre, I might raise the flop because it's quite wet (plenty of possible draws out there).
There's absolutely nothing wrong with getting it all in on the turn, there are tons of hands you're beating here... A5, A7, AK, AQ, AJ, FDs and you just aint deep enough to fold this IMO.
As for whether you played the hand well or not: There are better ways to play it but what you did wasn't "terribad".
Calling the raise in position pre-flop is alright but with AT you need to be careful not to fall in love with top-pair on the flop. Against the pre-flop raiser if you end up playing a big pot on an Ace-high board, you're very likely to have the worst hand. As long as you realise that and are able to get away from top-pair, then playing AT from the button is fine. Remember that position is your key strength here, not your hand. Your stack is just about big enough to make this call, as long as you're not playing to simply hit your hand.
The flop is interesting. I don't hate calling, though I think a raise would be better. When EBBERDON leads so small it looks pretty strange but you should be confident that you have the best hand a big majority of the time. Since there is a flush draw on the board and the board is Ace-high, you definitely want to raise for value. AK, AQ and possibly AJ can all be in EBBERDON's hand and he will pay you more if he's holding any of those. If he has a flush draw, possibly with a gut-shot like KcQc, we need to charge him to draw to those as well. If you think his small lead indicates genuine weakness, then calling to let him bet the turn can be fine. This board might not be the best for that, though.
There are plenty of scare cards that can come on the turn. Some of those will frighten our opponent and will prevent them paying us their full stack with worse hands, others will make our opponent a better hand and others will make us fear that our opponent has made a better hand and might lead to us being bluffed. So we want to get as much in on the flop as we can when we believe we are very likely to have the best hand and when our opponent is very likely to be willing to continue with worse hands.
Having called the flop bet and seen a safe turn card, you make the raise over the small lead. This is fine and when you face the 3-bet you should simply raise all-in because EBBERDON is unlikely to fold and we're still ahead of most of his range with top two-pair. Your 4-bet to slightly less than all-in is strange but there's no real difference between this and going all-in.
EBBERDON got unlucky with the river but he played the hand quite appallingly in my eyes. Min-betting the Ace-high, wet flop with bottom set is quite poor. He should know that a huge portion of your range is going to be an Ax hand which he can get value from and he also should know that he needs to charge any flush draws, rather than price them in. I hope it wasn't him who was abusing you. He's a good player and should be looking at his own play.
In answer to BorinLoner, yes, it was EBBERDON who was giving me the abuse in the chat box after the hand had played.