Won the hand, but was it played badly?

BigMikeDBC

Hi all,

Despite winning the hand, I'm concerned that I maybe should have folded the river or c-bet bigger on flop or something. By the time the turn comes there are two overcards to my JJ. Do we think I should have stopped firing here? This was quite early on in the 150 deepstack, so didn't really have any reads. Because he was c/c, I only put him on draws. His shove on the turn didn't make a lot of sense to me. Any advice appreciated. Thanks

PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalancejojojoe128Small blind 15.0015.004692.50docsterBig blind 30.0045.004852.50 Your hole cardsJJ   Hana606Call 30.0075.003945.001Call 30.00105.006730.00johnfrumCall 30.00135.004940.00BigMikeDBCRaise 120.00255.004585.00jojojoe128Fold    docsterFold    Hana606Call 90.00345.003855.001Call 90.00435.006640.00johnfrumFold    Flop  Q96   Hana606Check    1Check    BigMikeDBCBet 217.50652.504367.50Hana606Call 217.50870.003637.50WE8THEMAGSCall 217.501087.506422.50Turn  A   Hana606Check    1Check    BigMikeDBCBet 510.001597.503857.50Hana606Fold    1Call 510.002107.505912.50River  A   1All-in 5912.508020.000.00BigMikeDBCAll-in 3857.5011877.500.001Unmatched bet 2055.009822.502055.001ShowJ8   BigMikeDBCShowJJ   BigMikeDBCWinTwo Pairs, Aces and Jacks9822.50 9822.50

profman15

Hi Mike

You did well to put him ona  draw. I think he feels that your bet for some reason meant you didn't have an ace and when the other arrived he was going to give you a scare. He's not caught his oesd and was looking for a way of winning the pot. Surely he should have check raised the turn if he did have the ace. His play doesn't make sense to me. Jacks can be a precarious hand as your chances of overcards on the board are high and give you a bit of a cheeks  clench but wp in my opinion. You saw through him.......

BigMikeDBC

Thanks profman, makes me feel bit better bout it lol

Mike

Lambert180

I c-bet bigger. Check the turn behind when you're giving the chance to, keep the pot small imo. If he shoves river after you've played it like I said, easy fold, if he's bluffed you so what.

grantorino

Prob check back turn, why are you betting

River is a fold imo

Slykllist

I definately c-bet bigger, 300-325

Also agree with the 2 above posts, check behind on the turn for pot control

His line does look like a missed flush draw but I probably sigh fold on the river, but if you check the turn, the pot's only 1000 making the decision on the river alot easier.

BorinLoner

When you bet on the turn, the only hand that can call you that you beat is a flush draw, realistically. The problem is that the most common suited hand for a player to limp-call with pre-flop is Ax suited and that's a hand that's just gone ahead on this turn. So even if he was holding a hand that we were beating on the flop (something other than top-pair), there's a good chance that his hand has now improved to be beating us.

When he shoves on the river, we're only beating a missed flush draw. I wouldn't call as I'd think that people over-shove with big value hands more often than with bluffs. I think overall this call is going to be wrong more often than it's right.

bearlyther

Raise pre to 180 given the limps.  If you are betting the turn then you have to reliase that you are turning your hand into a bluff

BigMikeDBC

Thanks for the responses. It's clear, in the long run, this was a bad call but at least I know why now!

Thanks again

Mike