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jams88jams88 Member Posts: 694
edited October 2012 in The Poker Clinic
what do we think of betting the turn here? i bet for value against ak or any underpairs in hind sight looks abit small but then the huge overshove comes in confusing but an easy fold. Do we still think betting the turn with just tp on this board in a 3bet pot is ok? should bet bigger or check as have shodown value? thoughts pleased found villians line stange not sure what he has/trying to prepresent
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
Paulbbm Sit out        
ermburm Small blind   £0.10 £0.10 £38.70
wudibluff Big blind   £0.20 £0.30 £44.20
  Your hole cards
  • J
  • A
     
jams88 Raise   £0.60 £0.90 £42.06
davon121 Call   £0.60 £1.50 £29.91
IDONKCALLU Fold        
ermburm Fold        
wudibluff Raise   £0.80 £2.30 £43.40
jams88 Call   £0.40 £2.70 £41.66
davon121 Call   £0.40 £3.10 £29.51
Flop
   
  • 5
  • 9
  • J
     
wudibluff Bet   £2.33 £5.43 £41.07
jams88 Call   £2.33 £7.76 £39.33
davon121 Fold        
Turn
   
  • 2
     
wudibluff Check        
jams88 Bet   £4.00 £11.76 £35.33
wudibluff All-in   £41.07 £52.83 £0.00
jams88 Fold        
wudibluff Muck        
wudibluff Win   £14.97   £14.97
wudibluff Return   £37.07 £0.79 £52.04
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  • grantorinograntorino Member Posts: 4,710
    edited October 2012
    Check back turn imo

    What do you do pre v a decent size 3b?
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  • jams88jams88 Member Posts: 694
    edited October 2012
    In Response to Re: erm...:
    Check back turn imo What do you do pre v a decent size 3b?
    Posted by grantorino
    snap fold. But it was a min 3bet and i was in position don't think i can ever fold to that any hand that i have opened in that situation
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  • jams88jams88 Member Posts: 694
    edited October 2012
    In Response to Re: erm...:
    easy fold against this player he has a set or flush 100 per cent 
    Posted by IDONKCALLU
    Easy fold, but was i correct to bet the turn is what i am asking
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  • BorinLonerBorinLoner Member Posts: 3,863
    edited October 2012
    I wouldn't want to reopen the betting on this turn. If I have the best hand with TPTK here, I don't know what hands I'm going to be able to build a big pot against that don't have alot of equity against me. I'd just be happy to control the pot size and not allow wudibluff to put me in a really tricky position by raising the turn or by leading big on the river.

    There's some merit to the argument that we should be charging drawing hands but those drawing hands are unlikely to fold here and will frequently bluff the river when they miss, if we check the turn. I don't think we lose much value by checking the turn and I don't really want to be looking for three streets of value on this board with just top pair.

    If I was at the table I might end up betting it myself, though. lol
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  • PipunchPipunch Member Posts: 516
    edited October 2012
    i would say he's got the nuts.

    it's becoming standard for some people to value bet flop, check turn on scary board to induce a bluff to get more value
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  • grantorinograntorino Member Posts: 4,710
    edited October 2012
    In Response to Re: erm...:
    In Response to Re: erm... : snap fold. But it was a min 3bet and i was in position don't think i can ever fold to that any hand that i have opened in that situation
    Posted by jams88
    Not suggesting u should fold pre, but checking turn seems a good idea when above is the case
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