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BOOM! UKOPS is back.

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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited October 2012
    In Response to Re: BOOM! UKOPS is back.:
    In Response to Re: BOOM! UKOPS is back. : Possibly, but look at it another way. What will the average stack & Blinds be by the time the Add-On becomes applicable? If we use UKOPS6 as an example, (Turbo speedo quickie jobbie jobbie) the Add-On becomes available at the end of Level 7. Play will resume with Blinds at 200-400. Nobody is going to buy a 2,000 chip Add-on that consists of 5 Bigs. 
    Posted by Tikay10
    This is the case in all existing speed and velocity rebuys. Maybe it is something that can be looked at.

    Just saying :P
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 173,203
    edited October 2012
    In Response to Re: BOOM! UKOPS is back.:
    In Response to Re: BOOM! UKOPS is back. : This is the case in all existing speed and velocity rebuys. Maybe it is something that can be looked at. Just saying :P
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH
    Happy to look at it Mr Dohhh.

    Just saying. ;)

    As is frequently pointed out, Sky Poker do lots of things wrong, or sub-optimally, but bit by bit, they are improving everything, & that process will continue.
     
    Feedback on these sort of things is always listened to.

  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 173,203
    edited October 2012
    In Response to Re: BOOM! UKOPS is back.:
    Hi TK is there any omaha in the ukops, they must be some on.
    Posted by MRAIDERSON
    For you & me, & Greeky, and a few others, sadly the answer is "no".

    The demand for Omaha is very low, & to have an Oma\ha Event wouyld deny a more popular format it's slot. 

    Tough decision, but there it is.

    The UKOPS Guarantees require large fields to cover the Guarantees, & Omaha would not achieve that I'm afraid.
     
  • SHANXTASHANXTA Member Posts: 1,507
    edited October 2012

    any reason as to why on some nights the mini events have a smaller starting stack than the main?

    i'm also presuming that some of the blind levels will probably be taken out as well, god forbid we should be allowed the same well structured game as the higher buy in
  • MRAIDERSONMRAIDERSON Member Posts: 15
    edited October 2012
    In Response to Re: BOOM! UKOPS is back.:
    In Response to Re: BOOM! UKOPS is back. : For you & me, & Greeky, and a few others, sadly the answer is "no". The demand for Omaha is very low, & to have an Oma\ha Event wouyld deny a more popular format it's slot.  Tough decision, but there it is. The UKOPS Guarantees require large fields to cover the Guarantees, & Omaha would not achieve that I'm afraid.  
    Posted by Tikay10
    could they not have such a large payout, if the did sats for a week then just one torny on the sat or sun i am sure you would get the field, just one omaha torny, is it to much to ask
  • beanehbeaneh Member Posts: 4,079
    edited October 2012
    In Response to Re: BOOM! UKOPS is back.:
    In Response to Re: BOOM! UKOPS is back. : Happy to look at it Mr Dohhh. Just saying. ;) As is frequently pointed out, Sky Poker do lots of things wrong, or sub-optimally, but bit by bit, they are improving everything, & that process will continue.   Feedback on these sort of things is always listened to.
    Posted by Tikay10


    get rid of the first few levels, add in the 250/500 and smoothen out the play later on in most comps.

    Stop raking rebuys + I think an action hour style rebuy format would work better (the blinds start low go up quick then get reset back lower once you get out the rebuy period, it forces action whilst meaning everyone who comes out of the addon period has a good stack.


    RAKING THE REBUYS AND ADDONS IS A DISGRACE.



    Then decide to stop randomly choosing large stack sizes and picking blind durations out of the air.
  • SHANXTASHANXTA Member Posts: 1,507
    edited October 2012
    In Response to Re: BOOM! UKOPS is back.:
    In Response to Re: BOOM! UKOPS is back. : get rid of the first few levels, add in the 250/500 and smoothen out the play later on in most comps. Stop raking rebuys + I think an action hour style rebuy format would work better (the blinds start low go up quick then get reset back lower once you get out the rebuy period, it forces action whilst meaning everyone who comes out of the addon period has a good stack. RAKING THE REBUYS AND ADDONS IS A DISGRACE. Then decide to stop randomly choosing large stack sizes and picking blind durations out of the air.
    Posted by beaneh
    and +1 to this

    would you add in the 500/1000 as well?
  • SlykllistSlykllist Member Posts: 2,888
    edited October 2012
    'RAKING THE REBUYS AND ADDONS IS A DISGRACE.'

    Why is it?
  • beanehbeaneh Member Posts: 4,079
    edited October 2012
    In Response to Re: BOOM! UKOPS is back.:
    'RAKING THE REBUYS AND ADDONS IS A DISGRACE.' Why is it?
    Posted by Slykllist





    Iplay ma £5.50 tournament.

    I pay £5 to get some chips and 50p to the site.


    I play a rebuy. I pay £5 to get chips 50p to the site, to rebuy it costs me £5 for chips.



    ON SKY.


    I play a £5.50 rebuy. I pay £5 for chips, 50p to the site, I rebuy I pay £5 for chips 50p to the site, again and again. Same with the addon they are just super leeching money, only disreuptable and incompetent sites normally have this. Obviously we are 'lucky' to have this feature......
  • beanehbeaneh Member Posts: 4,079
    edited October 2012
    Now we've found that we can implement Late Reg. Can we now stop just randomly putting 90 minutes regardless of tournament, you didn't have this functionality before and it didn't effect the guarantees.


    Each comp seems to have a number picked out the air for the late regged then x2 or x3 and that's the amount of time.



    I'd be very interested in the number of runners who join in the last 3rd of the latereg + how many sats are still in running when the comp kicks off for them to have to be found spaces.


    Are more or less than half the field out by the time the primo hits it's reg ending period?



  • Sky_DaveSky_Dave Member Posts: 3,288
    edited October 2012
    Thanks for the feedback Beaneh. Can we make sure the thread stays on the UKOPS theme though rather than a Late Reg/rebuy policy gripe?

    Constructive criticism always welcomed when put the right way.

    Thanks,
    Dave
  • beanehbeaneh Member Posts: 4,079
    edited October 2012
    In Response to Re: BOOM! UKOPS is back.:
    Thanks for the feedback Beaneh. Can we make sure the thread stays on the UKOPS theme though rather than a Late Reg/rebuy policy gripe? Constructive criticism always welcomed when put the right way. Thanks, Dave
    Posted by Sky_Dave

    no they are all intertwined. The ukops is running rebuys. One rebuy comp I just looked at is down as 'REBUY' it's a double chance. which means you can have a second chance but not do rebuys, so the title of a comp with long late reg is rebuy but you CANT rebuy. tis ridic misleading.  would be better to call 2nd chances/cubed comps what they are!


    sky are welcome to discuss stuff and give reasoning (just like a poker player trying to improve) so we can decide if the decision was made for the right reasons/how it affects things/how to proceed!





  • GreekWayGreekWay Member Posts: 462
    edited October 2012
    24 events and not a single Omaha event. 

    I have to say I am a bit disappointed cause I think a small buy-in Omaha tour would have easily found a place between the Holdem events.


  • Sky_DaveSky_Dave Member Posts: 3,288
    edited October 2012
    In Response to Re: BOOM! UKOPS is back.:
    In Response to Re: BOOM! UKOPS is back. : no they are all intertwined. The ukops is running rebuys. One rebuy comp I just looked at is down as 'REBUY' it's a double chance. which means you can have a second chance but not do rebuys, so the title of a comp with long late reg is rebuy but you CANT rebuy. tis ridic misleading.  would be better to call 2nd chances/cubed comps what they are! sky are welcome to discuss stuff and give reasoning (just like a poker player trying to improve) so we can decide if the decision was made for the right reasons/how it affects things/how to proceed!
    Posted by beaneh

    So I'll take that as a no then, shall I? :)

  • SlykllistSlykllist Member Posts: 2,888
    edited October 2012
    In Response to Re: BOOM! UKOPS is back.:
    24 events and not a single Omaha event.  I have to say I am a bit disappointed cause I think a small buy-in Omaha tour would have easily found a place between the Holdem events.
    Posted by GreekWay
    I have to agree, I would have given the Omaha a go if the buyin was set at a sensible level :(

    That said, the rest of the lineup looks great :)
  • beanehbeaneh Member Posts: 4,079
    edited October 2012
    In Response to Re: BOOM! UKOPS is back.:
    In Response to Re: BOOM! UKOPS is back. : So I'll take that as a no then, shall I? :)
    Posted by Sky_Dave

    It's not like I want to make things better!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



    Feeel free to ship me over runner information for the last 2 series, historical data for october etc etc.

    otherwise I can only give general assumptions/guesses.




    Last time I did a long post on structures, and suggested some stacks/blinds/increases they were quickly implemented. At the time though I said you could increase this/reduce this etc etc. I was trying to point out the importance of the shallower stacks being early and the play at later stages being more deepstacked. yet the blinds were just whacked up to really long and the earliest levels were still included meaning 500bb at the start and then a couple of inflexion points where effective stacks nearly halved.


    Would have been more ideal to have a discussion before it's all announced and in motion ldo


    apologies for not being more ranty/sweary! it's just certain peoples inane opinions that make me do that.


  • GreekWayGreekWay Member Posts: 462
    edited October 2012
    In Response to Re: BOOM! UKOPS is back.:
    In Response to Re: BOOM! UKOPS is back. : I have to agree, I would have given the Omaha a go if the buyin was set at a sensible level :( That said, the rest of the lineup looks great :)
    Posted by Slykllist
    If the site doesn't host Omaha tours in festivals like UKOPS, for a example a 5.50 one which is an affordable and small buy-in, people won't give it a go. It's the whole buzz of the festival that will thrill the Omaha newbie to give the game a go.

    If you don't promote the game, you won't get any players to try it.
  • beanehbeaneh Member Posts: 4,079
    edited October 2012
    +1 to the inclusion of PLO comps.
  • 12671267 Member Posts: 936
    edited October 2012
    If i sat into a tourne which i have either A) already bought into    or B)  already satted into.  Will we get the money equivalent ?

    Basically most nights i wont get in from work around half 8.

    So im obviously not going to try and sat in to events, if i will just blind away for 30 mins.
  • SlykllistSlykllist Member Posts: 2,888
    edited October 2012
    If you already have a seat, you will get the cash equivalent.

    If you sat in and then cancel your registration - you will NOT get the cash
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