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30nl, 2 check/call spots? good/bad/ugly?

DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
edited October 2012 in The Poker Clinic



I'm not allowed to say good reg, so this guy is a 'winning' reg at this level.

Can't really figure him out he plays good tag style alot of the time, plays really well against fish and is tough to play against especially out of position.

He can randomly start playing really aggressive, he 3b me OOP once when deep, fired flop and turn and shoved river with just pocket 7s.....

My image is really aggressive, I open loads of pots from the cutoff/button/small blind.....

He's probably seen me cbet then c/f turn quite abit too.

I'm trying hard to give something close to a read here, I just haven't got any coz I don't know how to get them!!!

Is there any hand here he could have that I should be worried about? Maybe like a KJ or QJ suited that he's floated the flop with?

But then would he jam the turn???

Im struggling to put him on a hand that can beat me...........

Can I call?

PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
DOHHHHHHH Small blind  £0.15 £0.15 £50.61
xxx Big blind  £0.30 £0.45 £29.70
 Your hole cards
  • A
  • K
   
rob65 Fold     
STEVEWWFC Fold     
ShozChar Fold     
AJ_Rockets Fold     
DOHHHHHHH Raise  £0.75 £1.20 £49.86
xxxRaise  £2.40 £3.60 £27.30
DOHHHHHHH Raise  £5.70 £9.30 £44.16
xxx Call  £3.90 £13.20 £23.40
Flop
  
  • 2
  • 4
  • 4
   
DOHHHHHHH Bet  £4.50 £17.70 £39.66
xxxCall  £4.50 £22.20 £18.90
Turn
  
  • J
   
DOHHHHHHH Check     
xxxAll-in  £18.90 £41.10 £0.00
DOHHHHHHH
Hand 2

No reads/history at all here, which saves me writing a load of nonsense.

I'm probably gonna get told to bet the river myself....

Looking at a range of like QJ/TJ/KJ/AJ/8T and QT.....?
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
bkboy18 Small blind  £0.15 £0.15 £35.43
ellieh1234 Big blind  £0.30 £0.45 £26.79
 Your hole cards
  • K
  • J
   
meemee Fold     
mummy2b15 Call  £0.30 £0.75 £16.60
DOHHHHHHH Raise  £1.20 £1.95 £37.31
bbMike Call  £1.20 £3.15 £23.70
bkboy18 Fold     
ellieh1234 Call  £0.90 £4.05 £25.89
mummy2b15 Call  £0.90 £4.95 £15.70
Flop
  
  • J
  • 6
  • 9
   
ellieh1234 Check     
mummy2b15 Check     
DOHHHHHHH Bet  £3.50 £8.45 £33.81
bbMike Call  £3.50 £11.95 £20.20
ellieh1234 Fold     
mummy2b15 Fold     
Turn
  
  • 2
   
DOHHHHHHH Bet  £5.40 £17.35 £28.41
bbMike Call  £5.40 £22.75 £14.80
River
  
  • A
   
DOHHHHHHH Check     
bbMike All-in  £14.80 £37.55 £0.00
DOHHHHHHH

Comments

  • MkeItRainMkeItRain Member Posts: 46
    edited October 2012
    Hand 1 is a fold, I think from the sounds of it he's pretty capable of having a ton of weaker value stuff (88-TT) I also think he can have QQ-AA here some amount of the time. AJ really is the only J he should ever have and even that is pushing it imo. I think he shows up with too many of these hands and not enough silly float/bluffs to flick this one in when you're not really getting much of a price.

    Incidently I really don't like his turn shove with any of his hands. he has £19 back and £23 in the pot I think he can bet £7.50 with literally his entire  range and put you in a bit of a spot. HE might induce you do to something silly and Jam a hand like this one, plus when he's floated to bluff you OTT he gets to do it much cheaper. It's pretty reasonable that you'd check AA/KK to him OTT so beaming it in with TT for value seems a bit silly.

    Hand 2. No reads I just check call, most of the time It'll go check check and you win but he should hardly have an ACE ever and a bunch of draws missed, I think most of the time it goes chk/chk and you win but these are spots he'd fold to a river shove anyways, and once we've jamed the river all the QT, T8, 87 hands can no longer bluff.
  • percival09percival09 Member Posts: 3,804
    edited October 2012
    hand 1 don't even cbet. He isn't folding anything w/ your image. He's more than likely trapping u. If you do cbet I barrel the turn too as he might fold med-pairs. But like I said I probs check otf.
    Ott I just fold as played

    hand 2 I don't think QJ/J10 shove otr. If you think he can bluff otr w/ 810 and 10Q it's a call and if not it's a fold imo. Giving him a range of 10Q, 810, 66, 99, AJ you have like 75% equity. Including QJ and J10 (which are unlikely imo) you have 80% equity. 

    On the river I think c/c is probs the best as he'll shove his missed draws which u can spap imo w/ the above range. Putting him all in otr means he's probs only calling w/ a better hand. So I think c/c is fine. 


  • percival09percival09 Member Posts: 3,804
    edited October 2012
    looking back if you cbet you definitely have to at least double barrel imo. 
  • zilean99zilean99 Member Posts: 37
    edited October 2012
    First hand looks a lot like AA or KK trapping imo. If he knows how aggro u are, then he could def be trapping with either of these.

    hand 2 also a fold I guess. The only hands you're beating are q10 and 108. Think you should def bet bigger on the turn to maybe £8. By making it small, we attract all the draws and weaker hands to call everytime, and leave ourselves guessing when a bad river descends! Either that, or maybe check shoving the turn?
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