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5p/5p Action Table - KK 3way in a 4bet pot

Lambert180Lambert180 Member Posts: 12,197
edited October 2012 in The Poker Clinic

I'd appreciate any thoughts on my play here. With 2 callers of a 4bet I was worried one of the two must have been holding one of the hands to beat me AA/QQ/JJ, but obv I don't even have a PSB left and have an OP to the board.

I'm sure it's super standard but just wanna make sure. Think I will get calls (pre) from AQ, maybe AJ and would get value from them, and also don't want to give them free cards to bink an Ace/trips.

It just confused me, because I can't get called by much worse, but I can't ever fold imo, and I also don't wanna give up the betting lead and try to check/call to keep their ranges wider when they'll probably just check it down if I have them beat anyway.

PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
smoothmix Small blind  £0.05 £0.05 £5.94
GOLDENKING Big blind  £0.05 £0.10 £13.41
  Your hole cards
  • K
  • K
     
GADGETBOY1 Call  £0.05 £0.15 £4.33
Lambert180 Raise  £0.25 £0.40 £6.40
lee1970400 Fold     
ri0t_ Call  £0.25 £0.65 £4.69
smoothmix Raise  £0.40 £1.05 £5.54
GOLDENKING Fold     
GADGETBOY1 Call  £0.40 £1.45 £3.93
Lambert180 Raise  £1.55 £3.00 £4.85
ri0t_ Fold     
smoothmix Call  £1.35 £4.35 £4.19
GADGETBOY1 Call  £1.35 £5.70 £2.58
Flop
   
  • Q
  • 4
  • J
     
smoothmix Check     
GADGETBOY1 Check     
Lambert180 All-in  £4.85 £10.55 £0.00
smoothmix Fold     
GADGETBOY1 Fold     
Lambert180 Muck     
Lambert180 Win  £5.27  £5.27
Lambert180 Return  £4.85 £0.43 £10.12
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  • Lambert180Lambert180 Member Posts: 12,197
    edited October 2012
    Sorry, wrong section by accident, can this be moved to the clinic please :)
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  • Lambert180Lambert180 Member Posts: 12,197
    edited October 2012

    Lol well yeah I did, but I wanna know the WHY behind it. Like when I shove, there's very little I get called by that I beat, so why am I doing it? I'm never folding obv.

    I'm pretty sure shoving is the right thing, but I just wanted someone to explain why this is the case.

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  • bearlytherbearlyther Member Posts: 1,757
    edited October 2012
    Were never folding i like a bet of like £1.37 or something to induce a shove and if you get a call jamming any turn.
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  • BigHawk89BigHawk89 Member Posts: 627
    edited October 2012
    In Response to Re: 5p/5p Action Table - KK 3way in a 4bet pot:
    Were never folding i like a bet of like £1.37 or something to induce a shove and if you get a call jamming any turn.
    Posted by bearlyther
    +1

    Dont really like jamming prefer a small bet inducing a shove.
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  • bearlytherbearlyther Member Posts: 1,757
    edited October 2012
    The thing is at this level a lot of people wont reliase that this bet sizing is strong and when you bet this amount i think they could easily rejam with something like 8s or 9s thinking your weak.
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