In Response to Slow roll? : Sorry to be a pedant, but it's unlikely he will have a weak ace when you have 2 of them! I missed this thread the first time round, but like everyone else has said, its not a slowroll cos someone else is in the pot Posted by GREGHOGG
True but surely you can not discount something because it is unlikely. I think the last time I got AA all in pre it was against AJ and previous hands with this player told me he does flat and then call raises with Ax. It may be a slim chance and Tommy might be right about it shows more strength but I don't think this player would see it like that.
sorry to act really stupid but whats a slow roll i dont freally understand Posted by RLT16
Not a stupid question:
A slowroll is an act by a player when either:
i) They are the last to act in a round of betting on the river, all other players have either folded or are all in, the player holds the nuts or best possible hand, and they take an undue amount of time to call;
ii) Found in the live game, all players are at show down, all other hands of active players in the pot are shown, a player has the winning hand but takes an undue amount of time to show.
There are caveats to both. In case one you could argue that if they make the same action on round of betting which isn't the river it is still a slowroll, but some people generally feel nervous about calling off even with the nuts as they are usually still not 100% guaranteed to win the pot (an extremely tight player holding Aces facing a massive all in bet pre flop for instance, he has the best possible hand but is likely 80% or win to pot after all the cards are dealt). In case two, if you hold the nuts but not all other hands are shown, and you're in some sort of Mexican standoff to see the other holdings so they can't just muck face down, this is sometimes considered a slowroll, sometimes not, bit of a grey area again.
In Response to Re: Slow roll? : Not a stupid question: A slowroll is an act by a player when either: i) They are the last to act in a round of betting on the river, all other players have either folded or are all in, the player holds the nuts or best possible hand, and they take an undue amount of time to call; ii) Found in the live game, all players are at show down, all other hands of active players in the pot are shown, a player has the winning hand but takes an undue amount of time to show. There are caveats to both. In case one you could argue that if they make the same action on round of betting which isn't the river it is still a slowroll, but some people generally feel nervous about calling off even with the nuts as they are usually still not 100% guaranteed to win the pot (an extremely tight player holding Aces facing a massive all in bet pre flop for instance, he has the best possible hand but is likely 80% or win to pot after all the cards are dealt). In case two, if you hold the nuts but not all other hands are shown, and you're in some sort of Mexican standoff to see the other holdings so they can't just muck face down, this is sometimes considered a slowroll, sometimes not, bit of a grey area again. Posted by TommyD
Ok i get it now, cant say that id find it very annoying online when its only 10-15 secs, but can see why it would be annoying live.
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A slowroll is an act by a player when either:
i) They are the last to act in a round of betting on the river, all other players have either folded or are all in, the player holds the nuts or best possible hand, and they take an undue amount of time to call;
ii) Found in the live game, all players are at show down, all other hands of active players in the pot are shown, a player has the winning hand but takes an undue amount of time to show.
There are caveats to both. In case one you could argue that if they make the same action on round of betting which isn't the river it is still a slowroll, but some people generally feel nervous about calling off even with the nuts as they are usually still not 100% guaranteed to win the pot (an extremely tight player holding Aces facing a massive all in bet pre flop for instance, he has the best possible hand but is likely 80% or win to pot after all the cards are dealt). In case two, if you hold the nuts but not all other hands are shown, and you're in some sort of Mexican standoff to see the other holdings so they can't just muck face down, this is sometimes considered a slowroll, sometimes not, bit of a grey area again.