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AA pre in BB facing a cold 4, dealer high fived but what to bet?

TommyDTommyD Member Posts: 4,389
edited October 2012 in The Poker Clinic
Opened by an unknown player who's been pretty active without making much progress.

LAG1 is very aggro semi-reg, plenty 3betting with air in and out of position.  Can call down light but doesn't normally stack off pre light

LAG2 is quite aggro well known reg.  He can chase money when a bit tilty but has been playing well and winning across the two tables I'm playing him at the moment so no sign of tilt.

Anything I do here looks masively strong.  Would you risk a flat and hope someone shoves behind, 5bet or jam?
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
LAG2 Small blind  £1.00 £1.00 £602.00
TommyD Big blind  £2.00 £3.00 £171.21
 Your hole cards
  • A
  • A
   
rmgsquared Fold     
subsnw Fold     
Unknown Raise  £4.00 £7.00 £256.75
LAG1 Raise  £14.00 £21.00 £580.08
LAG2Raise  £33.00 £54.00 £569.00
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  • percival09percival09 Member Posts: 3,804
    edited October 2012
    I kinda like flatting with your stack tbh. Still looks massively strong but I think you have more chance of getting paid, but i think it's probs close between getting it in and calling
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  • bearlytherbearlyther Member Posts: 1,757
    edited October 2012
    This is tough i agree both look super strong but i think flatting is probly best as if you raise he knows you cant have any fold equity.  Id probly flat here and they could put you on a hand like queens but its tough as i dont think they would think you could even have as light as jacks in this spot.
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  • beanehbeaneh Member Posts: 4,079
    edited October 2012
    bet some chips.

    you're 2-300 bb deep and people want to flat for 15 bb to play multiway. no lol.


    reraise.



    maybe learn something by thinking about non AA Holdings?!
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  • beanehbeaneh Member Posts: 4,079
    edited October 2012
    rofl I didn't see tommy was short.

    just go all in rofl flatting is awful
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  • percival09percival09 Member Posts: 3,804
    edited October 2012
    lololol.
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  • percival09percival09 Member Posts: 3,804
    edited October 2012
    why's it awful? cos it's like always aa? suppose shoving makes more sense cos you'd probs do that with AK etc
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  • beanehbeaneh Member Posts: 4,079
    edited October 2012
    In Response to Re: AA pre in BB facing a cold 4, dealer high fived but what to bet?:
    why's it awful? cos it's like always aa? suppose shoving makes more sense cos you'd probs do that with AK etc
    Posted by percival09

    exactly

    that's why I said imagine a non AA hand


    it's not very ninja to be like lol call. and then just only ever have two aces in your hand.

    how would you play KK/QQ?
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  • percival09percival09 Member Posts: 3,804
    edited October 2012
    In Response to Re: AA pre in BB facing a cold 4, dealer high fived but what to bet?:
    In Response to Re: AA pre in BB facing a cold 4, dealer high fived but what to bet? : exactly that's why I said imagine a non AA hand it's not very ninja to be like lol call. and then just only ever have two aces in your hand. how would you play KK/QQ?
    Posted by beaneh
    yeah legit points. 
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  • TommyDTommyD Member Posts: 4,389
    edited October 2012
    Yup, I'm only playing 85BB at the moment, been lazy with the top up again.  It's not a MC or Deep table and luckily for me I've only donated one buy in to the mountains around me.

    I did jam, everyone folded.

    Very good point from Beaneh about how to play other holdings in this spot.  As LAG2 is the cold 4 bettor I'm jamming both KK, QQ and AK for value as well, on a good day he'll call with JJ+ AQ+, on a bad day 88+ AJ+ KQ, on a really bad day wider.  From early playing with the opener he may respond to a flat with a jam but that's pretty optimistic.

    When I'm this short I'm pretty much never flatting anything in this sort of spot, hope that's correct thinking.
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  • beanehbeaneh Member Posts: 4,079
    edited October 2012
    In Response to Re: AA pre in BB facing a cold 4, dealer high fived but what to bet?:
    Yup, I'm only playing 85BB at the moment, been lazy with the top up again.  It's not a MC or Deep table and luckily for me I've only donated one buy in to the mountains around me. I did jam, everyone folded. Very good point from Beaneh about how to play other holdings in this spot.  As LAG2 is the cold 4 bettor I'm jamming both KK, QQ and AK for value as well, on a good day he'll call with JJ+ AQ+, on a bad day 88+ AJ+ KQ, on a really bad day wider.  From early playing with the opener he may respond to a flat with a jam but that's pretty optimistic. When I'm this short I'm pretty much never flatting anything in this sort of spot, hope that's correct thinking.
    Posted by TommyD

    mos def.

    AA should be joke easy to play even 70000 bb deep. 

    make it KK 700000 bb deep and people might get scurrrrred.


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  • rancidrancid Member Posts: 5,945
    edited October 2012
    shove
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  • TPTP123TPTP123 Member Posts: 492
    edited October 2012
    ship it > 5bet small > flatting.  I think shipping looks the weakest when you make it 171 from 33 and prob induces maximum hero calls.

    I dont think unkwn is coming along often enough wen you do flat, with the info given.  Unless his a maniac or train then yeh flat most of the time... hoping the lags try to reisolate him. 

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  • Giant811Giant811 Member Posts: 613
    edited October 2012
    Fold for deception
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  • GlenelgGlenelg Member Posts: 6,600
    edited October 2012
    Empty the clip?
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