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KQ, how to play this?

davelufcdavelufc Member Posts: 1,374
edited October 2012 in The Poker Clinic
£3.30 deep stack, 4th hand of the tourney. Never played oppo before.

I think i was ok to call the 3 bet pre was i ?  Was the flat on the flop correct? and what do i do when he pots the turn?

Do we need to go to war this early on?
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
shirley02 Small blind  10.00 10.00 4815.00
Boxster Big blind  20.00 30.00 3881.00
 Your hole cards
  • K
  • Q
   
AceSinger Fold     
Quietman Fold     
davelufc Raise  60.00 90.00 5220.00
quotes007 Raise  100.00 190.00 4745.00
nffc4eva Fold     
Bobsicool3 Fold     
Serge77 Fold     
MADMOO Fold     
shirley02 Call  90.00 280.00 4725.00
Boxster Fold     
davelufc Call  40.00 320.00 5180.00
Flop
  
  • 4
  • 2
  • K
   
shirley02 Check     
davelufc Check     
quotes007 Bet  320.00 640.00 4425.00
shirley02 Fold     
davelufc Call  320.00 960.00 4860.00
Turn
  
  • 4
   
davelufc Check     
quotes007 Bet  960.00 1920.00 3465.00
davelufc  ? 

Comments

  • jugglegeekjugglegeek Member Posts: 623
    edited October 2012
    It's a small 3-bet. But you have to ask would he play QQ or Kx like this? I think it should be AA, KK or AK. Also, if you call the bet on the turn you are very likely to be facing a shove on the river. I think, this early on in a deep-stack you shouldn't be playing for your full stack with just top pair. Fold on the turn is fine.

    The flat pre is fine by the way.
  • BUFCBUFC Member Posts: 328
    edited October 2012
    I think you've played it fine. There are a number of players especially at this lower level who you would be a mile ahead of in this situation. I dont know this player so I cant comment on that, this could easily be KJ, K10, JJ, QQ, 1010 I've seen it many a time on here but I think the fold is correct. No point risking all your stack off with KQ here with no reads or info on the player.
  • percival09percival09 Member Posts: 3,804
    edited October 2012
    i just fold. 
  • bearlytherbearlyther Member Posts: 1,757
    edited October 2012
    Im folding the turn for sure he either has ak or aa the way its played.
  • davelufcdavelufc Member Posts: 1,374
    edited October 2012
    Thanks all, i ended up folding which most of you agree with, it turns out the oppo was a maniac!!!!

    If this had been later in the tourney after we had all seen how he plays, i snap this off!!!

    It was a difficult lay down but having no reads this early, felt it was ok at the time, ty again.
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    shirley02 Small blind  10.00 10.00 4815.00
    Boxster Big blind  20.00 30.00 3881.00
     Your hole cards
    • K
    • Q
       
    AceSinger Fold     
    Quietman Fold     
    davelufc Raise  60.00 90.00 5220.00
    quotes007 Raise  100.00 190.00 4745.00
    nffc4eva Fold     
    Bobsicool3 Fold     
    Serge77 Fold     
    MADMOO Fold     
    shirley02 Call  90.00 280.00 4725.00
    Boxster Fold     
    davelufc Call  40.00 320.00 5180.00
    Flop
      
    • 4
    • 2
    • K
       
    shirley02 Check     
    davelufc Check     
    quotes007 Bet  320.00 640.00 4425.00
    shirley02 Fold     
    davelufc Call  320.00 960.00 4860.00
    Turn
      
    • 4
       
    davelufc Check     
    quotes007 Bet  960.00 1920.00 3465.00
    davelufc Fold     
    quotes007 Muck     
    quotes007 Win  960.00  4425.00
    quotes007 Return  960.00 0.00 5385.00


     
  • davelufcdavelufc Member Posts: 1,374
    edited October 2012
    Different tourney . same problem!!!
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    BIGPSD Small blind  75.00 75.00 1995.00
    gugu Big blind  150.00 225.00 14215.08
     Your hole cards
    • K
    • Q
       
    paulrowy11 Fold     
    mrchips210 Fold     
    davelufc Raise  450.00 675.00 5743.75
    steph1977 All-in  3835.00 4510.00 0.00
    BIGPSD Fold     
    gugu Fold     
    davelufc ??
  • liamboi11liamboi11 Member Posts: 2,141
    edited October 2012
    the 2nd kq hand fold your too deep to call it off imo
  • percival09percival09 Member Posts: 3,804
    edited October 2012
    yaaaaa easy fold unless villain shoves a lot
  • grantorinograntorino Member Posts: 4,710
    edited October 2012
    1 nh
     
    2 ez fold 
  • davelufcdavelufc Member Posts: 1,374
    edited October 2012
    It may have been a stupid call, but i really couldn`t understand why oppo would shove 25 ish bb`s otb!!

    It`s prob bad play by me in the long run, oh well!! 

    @percy. Oppo made this move about 5 hands previously, everyone folded. I should have mentioned this when i posted this particular hand!!!!
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    BIGPSD Small blind  75.00 75.00 1995.00
    gugu Big blind  150.00 225.00 14215.08
     Your hole cards
    • K
    • Q
       
    paulrowy11 Fold     
    mrchips210 Fold     
    davelufc Raise  450.00 675.00 5743.75
    steph1977 All-in  3835.00 4510.00 0.00
    BIGPSD Fold     
    gugu Fold     
    davelufc Call  3385.00 7895.00 2358.75
    davelufc Show
    • K
    • Q
       
    steph1977 Show
    • J
    • 10
       
    Flop
      
    • 7
    • Q
    • K
       
    Turn
      
    • 3
       
    River
      
    • Q
       
    davelufc Win Full House, Queens and Kings 7895.00  10253.75
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