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was my fold really as bad as it looks - 10 left in the main

GELDYGELDY Member Posts: 5,203
edited October 2012 in The Poker Clinic
running pretty short stacked in the main. manage to hang on until there are 10 left. not helped by having mr mega stack on my left. I get QQ in the BB. i'm a hooping & a hollering cos I'll be able to stick it into mr megastack's eye. he raises - and then the similarly short-stacked button shoves.

normally this would be insta shove. but megastack will call with atc, and, knowing that, the shover must have a decent hand.

i'd still call but #10 is the real bubble in the main tournies.
10 pays 56
09 pays 111
08 pays 167
etc

if i fold then it's prob 40/60 i make it to 9th and i can choose another opportunity to get mega to double me up
if i call i'm in a 3-way pot against a good hand and atc

seems very nitty to fold, but i'm not in a good seat, can double up if the shover goes out, and don't like QQ 3-way.

but still, can it possibly be ok to fold QQ here?

and yes, I would have been knocked out but that's not the point.


xayn Small blind   1500.00 1500.00 89993.00
GELDY Big blind   3000.00 4500.00 30500.00
Your hole cards
  • Q
  • Q
smid2202 Raise   9000.00 13500.00 155700.49
BADBOY14 Fold        
gravy2 All-in   32557.02 46057.02 0.00
xayn Fold        
GELDY Fold        
smid2202 Call   23557.02 69614.04 132143.47
smid2202 Show
  • Q
  • A
     
gravy2 Show
  • 10
  • 10
     
Flop
  • A
  • 9
  • J
Turn
  • 6
River
  • 2
smid2202 Win Pair of Aces 69614.04 

Comments

  • bearlytherbearlyther Member Posts: 1,757
    edited October 2012
    With 15 bigs with qq in this spot im doing a cart wheel in the room before i presss the call button.
  • percival09percival09 Member Posts: 3,804
    edited October 2012
    should be more standard than breathing
  • percival09percival09 Member Posts: 3,804
    edited October 2012
    In Response to Re: was my fold really as bad as it looks - 10 left in the main:
    With 15 bigs with qq in this spot im doing a cart wheel in the room before i presss the call button.
    Posted by bearlyther
    has 10bb
  • bearlytherbearlyther Member Posts: 1,757
    edited October 2012
    In Response to Re: was my fold really as bad as it looks - 10 left in the main:
    In Response to Re: was my fold really as bad as it looks - 10 left in the main : has 10bb
    Posted by percival09
    Ah yes lol was looking at his stack not other guys even more of a call then
  • grantorinograntorino Member Posts: 4,710
    edited October 2012
    Easy jam
  • Lambert180Lambert180 Member Posts: 12,197
    edited October 2012
    Yeah you HAVE to jam. Forget about the extra £50 for laddering 1 place and think about the extra like £1500+ when you win it!
  • GELDYGELDY Member Posts: 5,203
    edited October 2012
    so the verdict was:

    yes my fold really was as bad as it looked! And I obviously knew that when I posted it, but happy to have confirmation.

    just as some context, having been playing more cash recently I've discovered i've become much too willing to take flips where i think i'm ahead, and that had leaked into my mtt game. so i was trying really hard to lay things down much more rigorously, and be more focussed on some mtt-survival disclipline. Had taken a couple of flips to get that far, where i held, but clearly i had become over cautious at the end. and i guess with my recent mtt downswing the laddering was overly appealing.  Got to get the balance right. sigh.


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