I actually thought railtard made a mistake in that A4 v A8 hand and was fortunate to find a fold from his opponent. I think when his opponent floats the flop, that player should be aware that he's committed to go with it if he bets the turn. The small turn bet was a mistake, but so was being willing to fold after making that bet, particularly against a player with railtard's reputation.
Perhaps railtard has been at the table with that player for a long time and knew that they weren't the most experienced and could lay it down after that small bet. If not, then I think it was definitely a mistake to check-raise the turn. More often than not the button will sigh-call with a hand beating A4. Obviously it's difficult to make a call there holding just A8 but it was an incoherent decision-making process to bet an amount that looks weak on the turn if you're actually going to play the hand weakly. Railtard basically was reliant on the pressure that the check-raise all-in put on his opponent. That's a good long-term strategy and is why he has such a good record. I'm just not convinced that this was a good example.
I wouldn't usually criticise a play shown on the telly but I'm pretty sure that a player like railtard can take it on the chin and if everyone's going to say how brilliant it was, an opposing view can't hurt.
No offence intended to Railtard of course. I suspect he has won a little bit more than me over the years.
You needen't read this out Richard. It may not be cricket to be critical of someone's play on the tellybox. It's just for the purposes of encouraging debate.
Rich and Jen, Firstly apologies for the strange name. Just took a bounty for £24 on the 10 K Side BH. so a not bad for £3 satellite win. Currently 34 out of 130 so you never know - got a taste for the bounties now lol
My game started improving when I started thinking about what other people were doing and why and not expecting them to play a hand the same way I would. Keeping notes on players I play all the time helps too. Run well all
Under the Gun I've always thought of as being like under the starter's pistol in athletics. You're the first to act and it's as though this is the start of the race.
Borinloner - Agree debate is good. Regarding the Railtard hand, it wasn't against an inexperienced player. Sam MacDonald is a fellow pro and I believe they have played a fair amount together so that has to be factored into the analysis of the play.
Borinloner - Agree debate is good. Regarding the Railtard hand, it wasn't against an inexperienced player. Sam MacDonald is a fellow pro and I believe they have played a fair amount together so that has to be factored into the analysis of the play. Posted by MattBates
I'm not particularly familiar with many of the players in the tournament, so I have no idea about their experience.
What I was trying to say was that if he's aware that his opponent is able to lay it down, possibly due to being inexperienced, then that could justify the play. Obviously knowing that your opponent is very experienced can also have the same effect. It's just a question of meta-game between them. If it was a randomer, then I would certainly not like the play.
The amount of levelling going on is hard to know, but certainly a bet of that size is designed to look like a value-bet, as a bigger bet would look more believable as a bluff to a strong player... but that's something that both players know. It becomes impossible to analyse without seeing dozens of hands between them.
I just think the check-raise there goes wrong more often than it goes well. If the button has second pair there, you've got to think he's calling against railtard, considering the size of the pot. I might be wrong about that, of course. Meta-game: Fun times.
I doubt the button bets the turn with second pair though, so the bet is likely to be pretty polarising... Hmmm... I'll be thinking about this hand for a while.
Quick update on another SAT NAVer or lucky qualifier - taken 2 heads for £36 all for £3 sat win so all good. 6 to go until bubble so could be a good win tonight - awesome fun. great analysis from jen (looking hot as usual)
The one single thing which has most improved my game Learning to handle variance
Since I binked my UKOPS place I've made nine attempts to make other main events
I've had full houses swamped by bigger full houses, flushes beaten by straight flushes and quads beaten by bigger quads! But I know I made the right decisions at the time!
Then very early this morning I played a timed tournament and recouped my losses and more!
Dishing out cooler after cooler to my opponents but still making the right decisions.
In the past bad beats would have tilted me! but now I realise I probably have many nore good beats than bad.
Selective memory makes us remember bad beats because they're always at the finish of our tournament, but we forget the beats we dealt out. To arrive at our demise!
Having said that, I apologise in advance to the 24 heads I'll be taking on my way to the UKOPS 7 Bracelet on Saturday lol
After you've taken your action for awarding the entry. I might be able to afford one of those Cappacino's
I have just gone out in 21st, I was short so shoved with AQ and was called by QJ and as it seems in these cases, he hit his J. It happens and over the last year or so I have come to accept these situations better. I never once felt out my depth TBF, but I did recognise the fact that the whole table were better players than me. It is all good experience for the future i hope and I am loving the sats!!
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Perhaps railtard has been at the table with that player for a long time and knew that they weren't the most experienced and could lay it down after that small bet. If not, then I think it was definitely a mistake to check-raise the turn. More often than not the button will sigh-call with a hand beating A4. Obviously it's difficult to make a call there holding just A8 but it was an incoherent decision-making process to bet an amount that looks weak on the turn if you're actually going to play the hand weakly. Railtard basically was reliant on the pressure that the check-raise all-in put on his opponent. That's a good long-term strategy and is why he has such a good record. I'm just not convinced that this was a good example.
I wouldn't usually criticise a play shown on the telly but I'm pretty sure that a player like railtard can take it on the chin and if everyone's going to say how brilliant it was, an opposing view can't hurt.
No offence intended to Railtard of course. I suspect he has won a little bit more than me over the years.
You needen't read this out Richard. It may not be cricket to be critical of someone's play on the tellybox. It's just for the purposes of encouraging debate.
Firstly apologies for the strange name. Just took a bounty for £24 on the 10 K Side BH. so a not bad for £3 satellite win. Currently 34 out of 130 so you never know - got a taste for the bounties now lol
Craig
What I was trying to say was that if he's aware that his opponent is able to lay it down, possibly due to being inexperienced, then that could justify the play. Obviously knowing that your opponent is very experienced can also have the same effect. It's just a question of meta-game between them. If it was a randomer, then I would certainly not like the play.
The amount of levelling going on is hard to know, but certainly a bet of that size is designed to look like a value-bet, as a bigger bet would look more believable as a bluff to a strong player... but that's something that both players know. It becomes impossible to analyse without seeing dozens of hands between them.
I just think the check-raise there goes wrong more often than it goes well. If the button has second pair there, you've got to think he's calling against railtard, considering the size of the pot. I might be wrong about that, of course. Meta-game: Fun times.
I doubt the button bets the turn with second pair though, so the bet is likely to be pretty polarising... Hmmm... I'll be thinking about this hand for a while.
Quick update on another SAT NAVer or lucky qualifier - taken 2 heads for £36 all for £3 sat win so all good. 6 to go until bubble so could be a good win tonight - awesome fun. great analysis from jen (looking hot as usual)
Craig
Learning to handle variance
Since I binked my UKOPS place I've made nine attempts to make other main events
I've had full houses swamped by bigger full houses, flushes beaten by straight flushes and quads beaten by bigger quads! But I know I made the right decisions at the time!
Then very early this morning I played a timed tournament and recouped my losses and more!
Dishing out cooler after cooler to my opponents but still making the right decisions.
In the past bad beats would have tilted me! but now I realise I probably have many nore good beats than bad.
Selective memory makes us remember bad beats because they're always at the finish of our tournament, but we forget the beats we dealt out. To arrive at our demise!
Having said that, I apologise in advance to the 24 heads I'll be taking on my way to the UKOPS 7 Bracelet on Saturday lol
After you've taken your action for awarding the entry.
I might be able to afford one of those Cappacino's
Great show as always!
Congratulations to VESPAPX and KARLLUKE who win free entry in to tomorrow night's UKOPS 6 Mini @ 8.15pm..... best of luck!!
Will my name be added to the lobby later as its not there yet?
Cheers