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20NL - Sizing Problems

HYPETINGHYPETING Member Posts: 253
edited November 2012 in The Poker Clinic
I believe this is one of my weakest points when it comes to cash. Value.

I think I miss out on value too much, maybe with bet sizing, and definetly with river bets.

OK, so reads on the two players.

SB is a passive loose player, haven't seen much from him. He was playing only 1 table.

BB is in every hand. I joined the table and he had £8, he has been fluctuating between £6 - £15.

Villains are not Regs.

River card is a brick, if I bet, what size?

And is my bet sizing through the streets OK?

PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
SBSmall blind £0.10£0.10£24.30
BBBig blind £0.20£0.30£12.74
andybethSit out    
 Your hole cards
  • A
  • J
   
HYPETINGRaise £0.60£0.90£31.58
DeuceAK_47Fold    
SBCall £0.50£1.40£23.80
BBCall £0.40£1.80£12.34
Flop
  
  • 10
  • J
  • 8
   
SBCheck    
BBCheck    
HYPETINGBet £1.20£3.00£30.38
SBCall £1.20£4.20£22.60
BBCall £1.20£5.40£11.14
Turn
  
  • 5
   
SBCheck    
BBCheck    
HYPETINGBet £3.80£9.20£26.58
SBCall £3.80£13.00£18.80
BBFold    
River
  
  • 2
   
SBCheck    
HYPETING?    
      
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  • rancidrancid Member Posts: 5,945
    edited November 2012
    fine, continue on river
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  • liamboi11liamboi11 Member Posts: 2,141
    edited November 2012
    yeah I agree your sizing is spot on imo prob bet river anything between 7-10 quid
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  • NColleyNColley Member Posts: 1,178
    edited November 2012
    Could go big with your reads, if he had a straight draw then hes just gonna fold, and hes gonna call off any Jx.

    Pretty grim if he decides to shove over your bet though.
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  • percival09percival09 Member Posts: 3,804
    edited November 2012
    bet sizings good so far. i bet like 10
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  • BigHawk89BigHawk89 Member Posts: 627
    edited November 2012
    Be so shocked if you haven't got best hand here. I don't think I would go too big probably bet something small like 5-7 quid! This might also get hands like 109, 89 or 99 to call us and leave enough room for a missed straight draw to jam over us.
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  • HYPETINGHYPETING Member Posts: 253
    edited November 2012
    As I said this is a weakness of mine, if I value bet river and he shoves.

    What do I do?
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  • BigHawk89BigHawk89 Member Posts: 627
    edited November 2012
    I don't see how he is ever shoving after the line he has took just seems like he's got a piece/draw and trying to get to showdown. 
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  • percival09percival09 Member Posts: 3,804
    edited November 2012
    you have to fold without relevant reads. Kinda sucks 
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  • HYPETINGHYPETING Member Posts: 253
    edited November 2012
    River
      
      		   
      SBCheck    
      HYPETINGBet £7.00£20.00£19.58
      £7 into £13.

      Slightly over 1/2 pot bet.

      I think the only hands that will possibly call me could be - 89,910,99,J9,JQ,JK.

      As I said, villain is a loose player and may call down lighter.

      He has £18 behind on river, is this sizing ok to fold if he check shoves?
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    • neely0y0neely0y0 Member Posts: 25
      edited November 2012
      I cbet the flop slightly bigger against 2 opponents on this board 1.4/1.5 
      as played turn I think is good, river I bet about 6/7 to try keep in his middle pair hands but fold to check shove against someone who i read as passive.
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    • simonnatursimonnatur Member Posts: 330
      edited November 2012
      Am I the only advocate for checking back the river ? (probably)

      I agree we're almost always winning here. Just have to ask ourselves what % of time we are winning when we get called ? 

      Seems to me optimistic to get called by worse if player is remotely capable. From likely range mentioned above, I think we only rarely get called by KJ on a good day.
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