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10NL - Thoughts on the turn
Lambert180
Member Posts: 12,197
I was discussing this hand with someone and they thought it would be an interesting one to post.
He's raised a lot of flops hence the call.
The main question is, can/should I raise the turn? I'm confident of being ahead byt are there enough hands that call? I think AJ and AQ fold if I raise the turn, he's not gonna have K2, so it's A2 and KT which are both fairly unlikely or big draws like QJcc? So how do you play the turn?
Obv the river is a horrid card, sigh.
He's raised a lot of flops hence the call.
The main question is, can/should I raise the turn? I'm confident of being ahead byt are there enough hands that call? I think AJ and AQ fold if I raise the turn, he's not gonna have K2, so it's A2 and KT which are both fairly unlikely or big draws like QJcc? So how do you play the turn?
Obv the river is a horrid card, sigh.
| Player | Action | Cards | Amount | Pot | Balance |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| mikeyd905 | Small blind | £0.05 | £0.05 | £12.04 | |
| EvilPingu | Big blind | £0.10 | £0.15 | £10.05 | |
| Your hole cards |
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| supercrazy | Fold | ||||
| shaun09 | Fold | ||||
| Lambert180 | Raise | £0.30 | £0.45 | £13.86 | |
| Bricktop01 | Call | £0.30 | £0.75 | £22.00 | |
| mikeyd905 | Fold | ||||
| EvilPingu | Fold | ||||
| Flop | |||||
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| Lambert180 | Bet | £0.50 | £1.25 | £13.36 | |
| Bricktop01 | Raise | £1.30 | £2.55 | £20.70 | |
| Lambert180 | Call | £0.80 | £3.35 | £12.56 | |
| Turn | |||||
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| Lambert180 | Check | ||||
| Bricktop01 | Bet | £1.70 | £5.05 | £19.00 | |
| Lambert180 | Call | £1.70 | £6.75 | £10.86 | |
| River | |||||
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| Lambert180 | Check | ||||
| Bricktop01 | Bet | £3.40 | £10.15 | £15.60 | |
| Lambert180 | Fold | ||||
| Bricktop01 | Muck | ||||
| Bricktop01 | Win | £6.24 | £21.84 | ||
| Bricktop01 | Return | £3.40 | £0.51 | £25.24 | |
Comments
highly depends on reads, fold is ok
rest is played fine, maybe shove river as a bluff )
can't see oppo betting river with worse !! we split with every other Ax - so what missed FD&SD Q10cc - possible but READS !!
You have played this sooo passive sigh, id say Kx is less in his range unless its club/club as cant see why he would ever re-raise flop
Only hand i think he beats us is K10, otherwise i think we are good as played.
Hero fail
My 2pr has been counterfeitted so now A2 - A9 have just caught up and are splitting, and AJ and AQ have just gone ahead of me, AK always was obv.
I've played it passive because at no point can I raise for value or raise and make stronger hands fold imo.
Do we have him on exclusively a FD then, cos that is the only hand I can beat now and I can't even beat it if it was Kxcc??
What hands do you think he plays like this that I beat on the river? And what hands does he play like this that I don't beat?
EDIT: To be honest, I think the river is a pretty easy fold, but either way, the point of the thread was 'can we raise the turn for value and should we?'
As for the second part, I said this in my OP but I think it's pretty much only A2, KT and flush draws, so I think it's pretty thin (hence me posting the hand) but it feels dirty allowing him to bet so small on the turn and set his own price for when he does have weaker hands/draws
like offshoot mentions earlier, without any reads on what oppo would showdown in the situation it's very difficult to say you should call more often
if oppo raises flop often then by default you have to widen oppo's range -
plus do you notice any varaition in the flop raise sizes against what oppo showdown
It's always difficult if you have no solid history