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Live hand limp reraise

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  • edited December 2012
    I can't tell when beaneh is being sarcastic, Limping a suited 5 gapper? Vs limping ranges that have our Jx dominated?
  • bearlytherbearlyther Member Posts: 1,757
    edited December 2012
    He checked the flop i bet 4k he check jammed and said lets gamble i called he had 108 for a gutshot river 10.  Yes definately wont be limp raising like this again think its spewy.  Reason they said can limp with trash hands like j5 etc coxy is they said against these players if we hit a flush or whatever there probly going broke with top pair.
  • beanehbeaneh Member Posts: 4,079
    edited December 2012
    In Response to Re: Live hand limp reraise:
    I can't tell when beaneh is being sarcastic, Limping a suited 5 gapper? Vs limping ranges that have our Jx dominated?
    Posted by CoxyLboro

    do our opponents make collosal mistakes?

    I had actually forgot it's a tourny so I would be tightening up some what, but in general in live splashy games people make such huge mistakes down the streets and it's much harder to make massive preflop mistakes as they always have some equity.

    the fact it's a tournament makes the LRR an even bigger mistake.
  • profman15profman15 Member Posts: 1,808
    edited December 2012
    Hi B

    Sorry i don't understand this play.
    You say its a limp-fest yet you limp with a below par hand for the conditions as you put them. Play hands that can flop big in a disguised fashion or premier hands/ pairs. I'd steer clear of this 'stuff' as fancy Dan plays aren't going to work as well, to my mind. You seem to think you can outplay weak players post flop, so why not trap. You seem to be walking into one with hands K9 o and similar,
    It's easdier to trap than to bluff in these situations surely.
    Maybe i'm missing something as i've not read other posts yet.
  • bearlytherbearlyther Member Posts: 1,757
    edited December 2012
    The beauty of playing 5 gappers and beyond!  Waterboat! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OxntHjvRZY
  • edited December 2012
    Everytime you make a flush, you stack someone (speculative, but probably close to true). Likeliehood of making flush, 3%

    Everytime you make a pair, you never know whether you are valuebetting, bluffing, or losing (again, not completely true, but pretty close to accurate). Likelihood of making a pair ~30%

    Limping J5s is losing proposition imo.
  • beanehbeaneh Member Posts: 4,079
    edited December 2012
    In Response to Re: Live hand limp reraise:
    Everytime you make a flush, you stack someone (speculative, but probably close to true). Likeliehood of making flush, 3% Everytime you make a pair, you never know whether you are valuebetting, bluffing, or losing (again, not completely true, but pretty close to accurate). Likelihood of making a pair ~30% Limping J5s is losing proposition imo.
    Posted by CoxyLboro

    I typed long post and lost it cant be a r s ed to do it again

    suffice it to say.

    we play better than live fishes. lets see some flops and create edges.


    live pokers tough brah, errryones solid and playing GTO
  • rancidrancid Member Posts: 5,945
    edited December 2012
    Well K9s yeah ok don't mind it so much cause it's sooted )

    prefer J9s, K10s even -  little more connected

    Don't know how much of an edge your going to have post flop when everyone limps and could have anything..

    Don't get me wroung it's very viable to limp along in these fields when raising only inflates pot, just don't agree on the hand selection.
  • scotty77scotty77 Member Posts: 4,970
    edited December 2012
    this whole hand sounds awful.

    worst part I think is the tanking when he jams (from your facebook post).  you make basically top top and you want to bet fold.


  • TPTP123TPTP123 Member Posts: 492
    edited December 2012
    To be fair its not as bad as it sounds as raise isolating is much harder than youy would think in a pub game, literally 7/10 50vpip+ stations in these games. I started out plkaying in games like this but slightly smaller. 

    IMO I def wouldn't limp behind to open limpers with any of the following broadways and up A7,K8,Q9,J9. 

    I would limp behind with hands like 64o,54o,T6o,etc and T4s,95s,85s etc. 

    Obv we're playing FoF on these multiway pots unless theres a huge spot to exploit 

    Still raising all pairs any position tbh and cbetting standard boards,. 

    EDIT: obv villain had an overpair here... 

  • bearlytherbearlyther Member Posts: 1,757
    edited December 2012
    In Response to Re: Live hand limp reraise:
    this whole hand sounds awful. worst part I think is the tanking when he jams (from your facebook post).  you make basically top top and you want to bet fold.
    Posted by scotty77
    Yes when i thought about the hand i figured hed just gone crazy with aj or aq and only hand i think he could have that would have played it like this is 10s or jacks which seems unlikely.
  • bearlytherbearlyther Member Posts: 1,757
    edited December 2012
    I like to get myself in awkward spots from a smooth call with k9 to getting 20,000 chips in the middle.  This is way i am in tournaments my entire stack is capable of going in the middle at any given point lol.  Went on the drink tonight and doing some christmas shopping tomorrow hopefully il come back refreshed after that lol!
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