cant really say much about this

loololollo

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
loololollo	Small blind		20.00	20.00	6470.00
marx1972	Big blind		40.00	60.00	4980.00
	Your hole cards	A 10
EL_BAYLEAF	Fold
mais1emo29	Fold
emirjan	Raise		160.00	220.00	3700.00
LadyLeo	Fold
loololollo	Call		140.00	360.00	6330.00
marx1972	Call		120.00	480.00	4860.00
Flop
		5 3 10
loololollo	Check
marx1972	Check
emirjan	Bet		240.00	720.00	3460.00
loololollo	Raise		480.00	1200.00	5850.00
marx1972	Fold
emirjan	Call		240.00	1440.00	3220.00
Turn
		6
loololollo	Bet		720.00	2160.00	5130.00
emirjan	Raise		1440.00	3600.00	1780.00
loololollo	Call		720.00	4320.00	4410.00
River
		8
loololollo	All-in		4410.00	8730.00	0.00
emirjan	All-in		1780.00	10510.00	0.00
loololollo	Unmatched bet		2630.00	7880.00	2630.00
loololollo	Show	A 10
emirjan	Show	6 5
emirjan	Win	Two Pairs, 6s and 5s	7880.00		7880.00

Lambert180

Can say don't minraise the flop, be very wary when he clicks back the turn and don't ever shove the river.

bearlyther

In Response to Re: cant really say much about this:

Can say don't minraise the flop, be very wary when he clicks back the turn and don't ever shove the river.
Posted by Lambert180

+1

Never raise the flop with just top pair you fold out everything your ahead of and not getting called by worse.  I hate your river allin after he has taken the iniative on the turn you have to check the river.

percival09

lol how can you just jump to the conclusion that you should never rase tp otf

he obv played it well otf cos he got called by worse

he isnt playing a good player obv is he

loololollo

In Response to Re: cant really say much about this:

In Response to Re: cant really say much about this : +1 Never raise the flop with just top pair you fold out everything your ahead of and not getting called by worse.  I hate your river allin after he has taken the iniative on the turn you have to check the river.
Posted by bearlyther

well i just did get called by worse? i was playing a deep stack here where the players arn't the best early stage making it easy to rake in chips and if i didnt go all in on the river he clearly would, all his chips are just a value bet anyway, atleast going all in myself would make him think about it

Lambert180

I agree with Percy that you can't say never raise otf w/ TP but this is 1 spot where I think it's bad, and especially don't click it back, put in a proper raise, if it's for value and they'll call a click back, they'll probably call a click back + 50% or whatever as well.

We all know you aint RO Percy

Readless against your average guy how many hands call a clickback here? No PPs apart from JJ+ or sets, probably 46 and 25 if he ever has them, very random 2pr hands

And again, when he does call a clickback on the flop, and then clicks you back on the turn, can you think of a single hand you beat?

bearlyther

In Response to Re: cant really say much about this:

I agree with Percy that you can't say never raise otf w/ TP but this is 1 spot where I think it's bad, and especially don't click it back, put in a proper raise, if it's for value and they'll call a click back, they'll probably call a click back + 50% or whatever as well. We all know you aint RO Percy Readless against your average guy how many hands call a clickback here? No PPs apart from JJ+ or sets, probably 46 and 25 if he ever has them, very random 2pr hands And again, when he does call a clickback on the flop, and then clicks you back on the turn, can you think of a single hand you beat?
Posted by Lambert180

Agree there is some spots when we can raise with it when we are in a leveling war or something like that but it general as lambert says i think its generally bad.

loooolllll you say your river bet is a value bet.  You should never be value betting the river here as he has raised the turn and all you have is top pair.  Therefore you should be check calling or check folding.  Never a spot to jam the river here and value bet it the way the action has gone.