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Chipped out!!! Tips Please

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  • TalonTalon Member Posts: 1,621
    edited November 2009
      I would like to add a point to something that Ladyf said. The comment was about table image.

     Before considering the table image you have set up you need to realise what you are playing in. If you are playing in a freeroll tourny or 2p/4p cash or 30p STT then the whole concept of table image becomes irrelevant because most of the players are either unaware of it or dont pay any attention to anything but their own cards. The higher the levels you go to you should be coming across better opponents who are aware of table image and can fold to a big move by a usually passive player.

     Also you need to think in a tourny when you are constantly moving around as to whether anyone is even aware of the image you have.It takes quite a while to establish your table image, just folding 5 hands in a row preflop does not indicate a tight player.
  • BuistyboyBuistyboy Member Posts: 408
    edited November 2009
    lol ladyfingrs, thanks for your patience here, I think i'm getting there!

    Why's it called a 3bet, if you are re-raising all in? Isnt that the second bet after the initial raise from the villain with 20-40bb's, and therefore a 2bet?

    And what kind of hands would you say are good enough to make that move with?  Would you do it with air based on the +EV you get over time, and is this a play that is applicable to mtt's specifically?

    Feel free to ignore me or tell me to go read a book mate, but i appreciate any comments you have time to make.

    Ray 
  • LadyFingrsLadyFingrs Member Posts: 613
    edited November 2009
    In Response to Re: Chipped out!!! Tips Please:
    lol ladyfingrs, thanks for your patience here, I think i'm getting there! Why's it called a 3bet, if you are re-raising all in? Isnt that the second bet after the initial raise from the villain with 20-40bb's, and therefore a 2bet? And what kind of hands would you say are good enough to make that move with?  Would you do it with air based on the +EV you get over time, and is this a play that is applicable to mtt's specifically? Feel free to ignore me or tell me to go read a book mate, but i appreciate any comments you have time to make. Ray 
    Posted by Buistyboy
    For whatever reason, the first raise is classified as the second bet, weird terminology, but thats what it is I guess.

    The range you can shove and it be +EV is dependant on the type of villain and, by extension, how often he will fold.

    It's hard to quantify it in general terms.

    sry.

    also @ raffious or w/e ur name is i forgot and cba to check, i dont feel I need to justify myself over a 16 game sample size over what is, for the most part £22+ MTT's, with the occasional £11 open.

      Username Games Played Av. Profit Av. Stake Av. ROI Total Profit Form Ability /100 Network Filter
    2Wisdomy 507 $3   $19   11% $1,303   Tilt 74 PokerStars SNG Only
  • LadyFingrsLadyFingrs Member Posts: 613
    edited November 2009
    idk how good you are at maths but $1300-$131=profit
  • SHANXTASHANXTA Member Posts: 1,507
    edited November 2009
    isnt it called a 3bet coz the blinds count as the first bet?
  • MereNoviceMereNovice Member Posts: 4,364
    edited November 2009
    In Response to Re: Chipped out!!! Tips Please:
    isnt it called a 3bet coz the blinds count as the first bet?
    Posted by SHANXTA
    Yes, pre-flop.
  • brookbridbrookbrid Member Posts: 133
    edited November 2009
    Position is every thing.


    At the latter stages,
     
    RAISE OR FOLD

    Grow some nuts, if you get sucked out, so be it.
  • scrumdownscrumdown Member Posts: 1,609
    edited November 2009
    pump em or dumpem when u get to latter end of the tourney
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