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can someone explain

loolololloloololollo Member Posts: 929
edited January 2013 in The Poker Clinic
where did i go wrong..


PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
CCSmall blind 150.00150.003785.87
button09Big blind 300.00450.0011212.50
 Your hole cards
  • A
  • Q
   
P1Call 300.00750.0011023.26
loolololloRaise 900.001650.003613.37
XFold    
XFold    
button09Fold    
P1Call 600.002250.0010423.26
Flop
  
  • 8
  • 9
  • 10
   
P1Check    
loolololloBet 1125.003375.002488.37
P1Call 1125.004500.009298.26
Turn
  
  • 5
   
P1Check    
loolololloAll-in 2488.376988.370.00
P1Call 2488.379476.746809.89
P1Show
  • 7
  • Q
   
loolololloShow
  • A
  • Q
   
River
  
  • 7
   
P1WinPair of 7s9476.74 16286.63
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  • jams88jams88 Member Posts: 694
    edited January 2013
    you didn't. It's played fine sigh move onto next hand
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  • VespaPXVespaPX Member Posts: 12,404
    edited January 2013
    Villian was never folding after flopping open ended str8 draw and his stack size. imo
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  • profman15profman15 Member Posts: 1,808
    edited January 2013
    Hi L

    My mtt game is pretty poor at the mo but maybe someone could tell me if an ALL-in on flop from L would  an ok move with just over 12 BB's.
    I must admit that i don't understand why T should call on the ai on the turn as he doesn't have the pot odds, does he if he is considering himself as being behind AND only having 8 outs so about 16% equity. I think its a bad call more in hope than judgement. Was it a BH perchance?

    PS L erase players names in the pot with you as they don't like their plays advertised m8.
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  • Lambert180Lambert180 Member Posts: 12,197
    edited January 2013
    Well he's calling 2.5k to win practically 10k so his odds aren't worlds away but it is a bad call from the villian but I imagine he was swayed (incorrectly) by the fact he was short so thought he'd just go for a gamble.

    OP - You should have shoved pre, you only have about 15xBB. If you don't shove pre then I think Profman is right about just shoving the flop, it's a nice pot already compared to our stack and we're happy to take it down now if that's the case, if not we're getting the money in when we have tons of equity. When we miss on the turn, our equity is ALOT smaller. On the flop we are a small favourite against TP, now on the turn, we drop to only have 35% chance of winning against TP, even less if he has some kinda 2pr, set etc.

    You don't have enough chips imo to be not just getting it in.
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  • bearlytherbearlyther Member Posts: 1,757
    edited January 2013
    Yea jam pre
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  • jams88jams88 Member Posts: 694
    edited January 2013
    can't see villians stack size but lambert is saying 15bb so do we not think jamming pre is abit excessive we want this guy to call really. Can see why jamming the flop would be a good move though
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  • bearlytherbearlyther Member Posts: 1,757
    edited January 2013
    In Response to Re: can someone explain:
    can't see villians stack size but lambert is saying 15bb so do we not think jamming pre is abit excessive we want this guy to call really. Can see why jamming the flop would be a good move though
    Posted by jams88
    Jamming pre is standard here
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  • jams88jams88 Member Posts: 694
    edited January 2013
    So we are looking to take the pot down there and then?
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  • loolololloloololollo Member Posts: 929
    edited January 2013
    In Response to Re: can someone explain:
    Well he's calling 2.5k to win practically 10k so his odds aren't worlds away but it is a bad call from the villian but I imagine he was swayed (incorrectly) by the fact he was short so thought he'd just go for a gamble. OP - You should have shoved pre, you only have about 15xBB. If you don't shove pre then I think Profman is right about just shoving the flop, it's a nice pot already compared to our stack and we're happy to take it down now if that's the case, if not we're getting the money in when we have tons of equity. When we miss on the turn, our equity is ALOT smaller. On the flop we are a small favourite against TP, now on the turn, we drop to only have 35% chance of winning against TP, even less if he has some kinda 2pr, set etc. You don't have enough chips imo to be not just getting it in.
    Posted by Lambert180

    yeah was going to jam the flop but thought of getting as much in as possible since i thought i was far ahead on this board
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  • loolololloloololollo Member Posts: 929
    edited January 2013
    In Response to Re: can someone explain:
    Hi L My mtt game is pretty poor at the mo but maybe someone could tell me if an ALL-in on flop from L would  an ok move with just over 12 BB's. I must admit that i don't understand why T should call on the ai on the turn as he doesn't have the pot odds, does he if he is considering himself as being behind AND only having 8 outs so about 16% equity. I think its a bad call more in hope than judgement. Was it a BH perchance? PS L erase players names in the pot with you as they don't like their plays advertised m8.
    Posted by profman15

    uhh ok will do
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  • loolololloloololollo Member Posts: 929
    edited January 2013
    In Response to Re: can someone explain:
    In Response to Re: can someone explain : Jamming pre is standard here
    Posted by bearlyther

    ok
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  • bearlytherbearlyther Member Posts: 1,757
    edited January 2013
    In Response to Re: can someone explain:
    In Response to Re: can someone explain : yeah was going to jam the flop but thought of getting as much in as possible since i thought i was far ahead on this board
    Posted by loololollo
    This board hits the villans range so hard
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  • loolololloloololollo Member Posts: 929
    edited January 2013
    In Response to Re: can someone explain:
    In Response to Re: can someone explain : This board hits the villans range so hard
    Posted by bearlyther

    uhh mabye but ( I THOUGHT ) he was playing tight so i put him on a low PP or just a simular hand to me
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  • bearlytherbearlyther Member Posts: 1,757
    edited January 2013
    In Response to Re: can someone explain:
    So we are looking to take the pot down there and then?
    Posted by jams88
    yes and he can call with worse
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  • bearlytherbearlyther Member Posts: 1,757
    edited January 2013
    In Response to Re: can someone explain:
    In Response to Re: can someone explain : uhh mabye but ( I THOUGHT ) he was playing tight so i put him on a low PP or just a simular hand to me
    Posted by loololollo
    Wait i didnt see that you flopped a flush draw aswell lol.  But yea makes life easier if you just open jam this pre wth 13 bigs.
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  • JSTFLIPPINJSTFLIPPIN Member Posts: 255
    edited January 2013
    Was it a bounty hunter? :) They bring out the idiots
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  • loolololloloololollo Member Posts: 929
    edited January 2013
    In Response to Re: can someone explain:
    Was it a bounty hunter? :) They bring out the idiots
    Posted by JSTFLIPPIN

    yes sir
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