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Would you call here? Opinions please.
gazza127
Member Posts: 2,156
Im new to the table and I do not know the villain. I think my preflop play is fine, aswell as my lead on the flop (although maybe lead out could have been slightly smaller to avoid inflating the pot). Just wondering whether or not I should be calling here? I wont tell you what happened until people have given their opinions... Just thought this was an interesting spot, and one that I could ask peoples opinions on in my first Poker Clinic hand post. 
| 1 | Small blind | 15.00 | 15.00 | 1517.50 | |
| villain | Big blind | 30.00 | 45.00 | 2465.00 | |
| Your hole cards |
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| 2 | Fold | ||||
| gazza127 | Raise | 120.00 | 165.00 | 2415.00 | |
| 3 | Call | 120.00 | 285.00 | 1742.50 | |
| 4 | Fold | ||||
| 1 | Call | 105.00 | 390.00 | 1412.50 | |
| villain | Call | 90.00 | 480.00 | 2375.00 | |
| Flop | |||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
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| 1 | Check | ||||
| villain | Check | ||||
| gazza127 | Bet | 480.00 | 960.00 | 1935.00 | |
| 3 | Call | 480.00 | 1440.00 | 1262.50 | |
| 1 | Fold | ||||
| villain | All-in | 2375.00 | 3815.00 | 0.00 | |
| gazza127 | |||||
Comments
On the flop I don't like c-betting full-pot. This is making our hand pretty transparent in my opinion as it looks like we're afraid to allow a cheap card but have a hand of value that we're not going to fold (So we're very likely to have an overpair). A two-third-pot or three-quarter-pot bet gives the illusion of fold equity, potentially gaining us extra value from weaker pairs. This would be more important an issue with the full-pot bet on a board with either a straight or flush draw, not both as on this board. Here, if they've got a made hand they're probably going to talk themselves into thinking we have one of the many, many possible draws. It's still relevant, though.
When you make the c-bet you've got to be expecting a shove alot of the time because so many draws are out there. Both made hands and draws will shove. You have the top end of the straight draw and you've got an overpair so you're definitely ahead of alot of the shovers range. The caller between the two of you is a concern as they should be committed but it's not enough to indicate you're behind. C-betting so big with the intention of folding a strong hand with extensions would be a bad flaw in your thought process. Got to get it in now.
so u fold player 1 calls, villan shows 10 j clubs,
if only carlsberg done poker
I think your 4x bb is fine. There aren't any short stacks so no need to worry about AI's for size reasons. You are new to the table so an unknown force as it were. You have opened from mp so perhaps players expect high cards from you. The flop is lovely for you, isn't it. OESD to the nut str8 and overpair to the board.
You bet though full pot would not be my choice tbh,(maybe 2/3), get a call probably from a drawing hand and the a rer AI with a very big bet. Some would look at this as a weak play to push people away but the pot is probably big enough already. It is early and you will get players looking to double up early as part of their strategy to bully. I don't know here but i suspect he has a made hand and is strong. He may have a set or maybe two pair. He could even have the flush draw. However you have a made hand and with 10 outs at least to improve to a winning hand not incl runner runner situ's. This should give you about 40% equity in the pot and the pots odds are better than this even without the player behind calling.
I think that i'd rer ai and wouldn't mind if i got the other player to call too.
Sometimes your tournament is made by such a hand. To my mind this is too good a spot not to reraise all-in.
raise 3x pre
c/bet less
probs call it off, oppo got draw hopefully - u have draw + pr
o yeah then rebuy! is fine if fold, prefer lower sizing pre & on the flop though - u may just be flipping