feedback please

loololollo

both players agg, do i value bet or ship it?

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
safc20	Small blind		300.00	300.00	10856.75
JAZZHANDS	Big blind		600.00	900.00	1127.50
	Your hole cards	2 A
sooky	Fold
loololollo	Call		600.00	1500.00	6968.50
darryn1973	Call		600.00	2100.00	12890.00
safc20	Call		300.00	2400.00	10556.75
JAZZHANDS	Check
Flop
		A Q A
safc20	Bet		600.00	3000.00	9956.75
JAZZHANDS	Fold
loololollo	Call		600.00	3600.00	6368.50
darryn1973	Call		600.00	4200.00	12290.00
Turn
		10
safc20	Bet		600.00	4800.00	9356.75
loololollo	Call		600.00	5400.00	5768.50
darryn1973	Call		600.00	6000.00	11690.00
River
		2
safc20	Check
loololollo	All-in		5768.50	11768.50	0.00
darryn1973	Fold
safc20	Fold
loololollo	Muck
loololollo	Win		6000.00		6000.00
loololollo	Return		5768.50	0.00	11768.50

Lambert180

DONT LIMP!!!!

dunno how many times this has been said, just dont limp!

Calling flop and turn seems fine, jam river yeah.

If you'd have minraised pre, pot is bigger, you c-bet and pot is much bigger so much easier to get the rest in.

loololollo

In Response to Re: feedback please:

DONT LIMP!!!! dunno how many times this has been said, just dont limp! Calling flop and turn seems fine, jam river yeah. If you'd have minraised pre, pot is bigger, you c-bet and pot is much bigger so much easier to get the rest in.
Posted by Lambert180

only had like 10k stack or something + their agg so they might think im stealing and jam it which puts me under alot of pressure, i thought i could get it in anyway since they do all the betting with medi-oka hands

craigcu12

these are the reasons why clubhammer did a raise on the turn even if he did hold a FH
by just doing call after call followed by a shove on the river only the very best hands would make calls as it's just not worth risking for such a low pot

jams88

fold or raise pre i prefer the fold. Limping to fold to a shove is terrible and you allow them in with so many hands that have you dominated. limping here is just yuk. If they are aggressive wait for a better hand.

as it turns out this is time post is played fine

loololollo

In Response to Re: feedback please:

fold or raise pre i prefer the fold. Limping to fold to a shove is terrible and you allow them in with so many hands that have you dominated. limping here is just yuk. If they are aggressive wait for a better hand. as it turns out this is time post is played fine
Posted by jams88

was getting board of not getting any cards was planning to float and steal in a heads up bu didnt happen

step7

If you get "board" waiting for cards have you tried playing HU sngs? You won't have to wait too long for cards - might help improve your game too.

cenachav

You say both players are aggro but the only non donk bet comes from you on the river.  This is not how aggro players play!

Lambert180

You're planning on floating and then stealing when you have 10xBB lol.

Please just google to find out the very basics of how to play a shortstack. You basically have no moves left when you have 10xBB. Get them in with a half decent hand (or better) that can stand up to a call and when you have FE or don't put a chip in the pot.

loololollo

no one really plays this deep so i prob wont get challanged when i limp and i i know as short stack your meant to shove any half decent hands but meh felt a bit frisky

Lambert180

Look, most people in general at these stages are complete nits and won't get it in without a strong hand.

If for some reason you refuse to shove with 10xBB, then you HAVE to min-raise. Minraising at these stages on the right table can result in a gold mine of chips.

Minraising = you can win 900 chips now completely risk free and when you got 6000, that's great.

Limping = zero chance of winning the blinds now, you HAVE to hit the flop or you're just bleeding chips.

loololollo

In Response to Re: feedback please:

Look, most people in general at these stages are complete nits and won't get it in without a strong hand. If for some reason you refuse to shove with 10xBB, then you HAVE to min-raise. Minraising at these stages on the right table can result in a gold mine of chips. Minraising = you can win 900 chips now completely risk free and when you got 6000, that's great. Limping = zero chance of winning the blinds now, you HAVE to hit the flop or you're just bleeding chips.
Posted by Lambert180

as i said both players agg, if i min raise both will call and the pot is now inflated which is defo not what i want

Lambert180

In Response to Re: feedback please:

In Response to Re: feedback please : as i said both players agg, if i min raise both will call and the pot is now inflated which is defo not what i want
Posted by loololollo

That's not been aggressive, that's them beign loose. If they were aggro, they'd see you had 10xBB and just jam on you. I certainly wouldn't be getting in a pot against a 10xBB stack unless I was willing to get the lot in, it's just bad play.

percival09

just fold or ship then. fs.

cenachav

In Response to Re: feedback please:

In Response to Re: feedback please : as i said both players agg, if i min raise both will call and the pot is now inflated which is defo not what i want
Posted by loololollo

Again, that is NOT being aggro.  If it was me in the BB there I would be setting the pair of you in with vertualy any two cards.  Limping there just shows weakness and is very exploitable