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is this board too wet for my set

craigcu12craigcu12 Member Posts: 3,960
edited January 2013 in The Poker Clinic
villians on micro tables i think over value an A so what i'm thinking here is would it be a big risk calling my set as it's also the lowest set too
craigcu12 Small blind  £0.02 £0.02 £9.78
p1Big blind  £0.04 £0.06 £2.69
 Your hole cards
  • 2
  • 2
   
p2Call  £0.04 £0.10 £2.94
p3Call  £0.04 £0.14 £1.73
thetombs01 Fold     
ronnieg197 Fold     
craigcu12 Call  £0.02 £0.16 £9.76
p1Check     
Flop
  
  • 3
  • 5
  • 2
   
craigcu12 Check     
p1Bet  £0.04 £0.20 £2.65
p2Raise  £0.12 £0.32 £2.82
p3Call  £0.12 £0.44 £1.61
craigcu12 Raise  £0.40 £0.84 £9.36
p1Call  £0.36 £1.20 £2.29
p2Call  £0.28 £1.48 £2.54
p3Call  £0.28 £1.76 £1.33
Turn
  
  • 10
   
craigcu12 Bet  £0.44 £2.20 £8.92
p1Call  £0.44 £2.64 £1.85
p2Call  £0.44 £3.08 £2.10
p3Call  £0.44 £3.52 £0.89
River
  
  • 4
   
craigcu12 Check     
p1Check     
p2Check     
p3All-in  £0.89 £4.41 £0.00

Comments

  • Lambert180Lambert180 Member Posts: 12,197
    edited January 2013
    Probably raise bigger on the flop.

    I bet WAY bigger on the turn, like £1.30ish.

    River is horrible cos all Ax hands just got there and these folks love a raggy Ax lol.
  • Curt360x27Curt360x27 Member Posts: 490
    edited January 2013
    Don't get the title at all. WTF do you mean by 'is this board to wet for my set'? To wet for what?

    Your bet sizing on the turn is horrendous. On a complete brick you bet 1/4 of the pot. WHY! Do you not want to get the money in or something? Or do you want to give people good odds to draw?  

    Just make it 50-60p on the flop and shove turn. Simples.
  • craigcu12craigcu12 Member Posts: 3,960
    edited January 2013
    In Response to Re: is this board too wet for my set:
    Don't get the title at all. WTF do you mean by 'is this board to wet for my set'? To wet for what? Your bet sizing on the turn is horrendous. On a complete brick you bet 1/4 of the pot. WHY! Do you not want to get the money in or something? Or do you want to give people good odds to draw?   Just make it 50-60p on the flop and shove turn. Simples.
    Posted by Curt360x27
    i understand about my bet on flop and turn being so weak what i was saying about this board being so wet  relates to the simple fact this is micro stakes, so any Axo most villians think is a good hand so therefore the river card has now created a straight for them raggy aces
  • ajs4385ajs4385 Member Posts: 455
    edited January 2013
    Shove flop
  • offshootoffshoot Member Posts: 1,049
    edited January 2013
    Craig -

    Every hand you post in the clinic people tell you to bet bigger yet every subsequent hand you post you still bet really small. Do you listen to anything anyone says? Theres no point in posting hands if you're not gonna take on board peoples opinions.
  • The_Don90The_Don90 Member Posts: 9,814
    edited January 2013
    Looking at hand im shoving the flop. We're likley getting called at this level. 

    As played i sigh fold the river. So many better spots v these guys. 
  • step7step7 Member Posts: 298
    edited January 2013
    @Don: You really folding the river at that price??

    I think shoving the flop is not a bad idea with that many in the hand, good chance of still getting 1 or 2 calls from 66+/76/draw chasers.

    With the shorter stacks at the table I think checking 22 is fine, what's the concensus on raising it on the BB?
  • The_Don90The_Don90 Member Posts: 9,814
    edited January 2013
    In Response to Re: is this board too wet for my set:
    @Don: You really folding the river at that price?? I think shoving the flop is not a bad idea with that many in the hand, good chance of still getting 1 or 2 calls from 66+/76/draw chasers. With the shorter stacks at the table I think checking 22 is fine, what's the concensus on raising it on the BB?
    Posted by step7
    4 way with 2 larger stacks behind yes. we're beat many better spots
  • loolololloloololollo Member Posts: 929
    edited January 2013
    In Response to Re: is this board too wet for my set:
    Don't get the title at all. WTF do you mean by 'is this board to wet for my set'? To wet for what? Your bet sizing on the turn is horrendous. On a complete brick you bet 1/4 of the pot. WHY! Do you not want to get the money in or something? Or do you want to give people good odds to draw?   Just make it 50-60p on the flop and shove turn. Simples.
    Posted by Curt360x27
    ^ exactly what i was thinking your a genius sir
  • percival09percival09 Member Posts: 3,804
    edited January 2013
    In Response to Re: is this board too wet for my set:
    Don't get the title at all. WTF do you mean by 'is this board to wet for my set'? To wet for what? Your bet sizing on the turn is horrendous. On a complete brick you bet 1/4 of the pot. WHY! Do you not want to get the money in or something? Or do you want to give people good odds to draw?   Just make it 50-60p on the flop and shove turn. Simples.
    Posted by Curt360x27
    What don't you get it?

    It rhymes. That's all we need.
  • craigcu12craigcu12 Member Posts: 3,960
    edited January 2013
    In Response to Re: is this board too wet for my set:
    In Response to Re: is this board too wet for my set : ^ exactly what i was thinking your a genius sir
    Posted by loololollo
    the title is refering to the river iknow my bet sizing was poor flop and turn but it was the river i was refering to as you should know by now these micro stakes love any Ax so that set of twos on the river to me looked a loss for sure as their's a great chance the villians will have hit their straight A2345
  • seppeseppe Member Posts: 287
    edited January 2013
    In Response to Re: is this board too wet for my set:
    In Response to Re: is this board too wet for my set : the title is refering to the river iknow my bet sizing was poor flop and turn but it was the river i was refering to as you should know by now these micro stakes love any Ax so that set of twos on the river to me looked a loss for sure as their's a great chance the villians will have hit their straight A2345
    Posted by craigcu12
    If they hit there straight or bk door flush its your own fault with your bet sizing
  • craigcu12craigcu12 Member Posts: 3,960
    edited January 2013
    well here is the final outcome and all i can say is basically i was certain to loose as that K6 flush draw would still have called the shove weather flop or turn
    craigcu12 Call  £0.89 £5.30 £8.03
    xRaise  £1.78 £7.08 £0.07
    zFold     
    craigcu12 Raise  £1.78 £8.86 £6.25
    xAll-in  £0.07 £8.93 £0.00
    craigcu12 Unmatched bet  £0.82 £8.11 £7.07
    craigcu12 Show
    • 2
    • 2
       
    xShow
    • 9
    • A
       
    yShow
    • 6
    • K
       
    yWin Straight to the 6 £5.72  £5.72
    xWin Straight to the 5 £1.78  £1.78
  • JSTFLIPPINJSTFLIPPIN Member Posts: 255
    edited January 2013
    need an umbrella m8
  • The_Don90The_Don90 Member Posts: 9,814
    edited January 2013
    save your 7p when going here please. 

    Fwiw i stand by what i said when i said i fold earlier but when your going to call of save any pennies you can 
  • NColleyNColley Member Posts: 1,178
    edited January 2013
    Ya I agree with Don, I'm c/f that river 4 way regardless of that price.

    You got married to your hand in the end but the money should be going in on the turn at the latest. Long term you lose so much value at this stake if your not stacking the turn there.

  • rancidrancid Member Posts: 5,945
    edited January 2013
    The fact that it is wet is good for you because it's more likely your going to to get the money in the middle
    - raise lots - get lots

    bet turn lots, get lots

    basically when you get action and you have this hand, bet as much as you can - pot size is good

    river is a fold but the river is not the problem here - your failure to notice the above is the problem


  • The_Don90The_Don90 Member Posts: 9,814
    edited January 2013
    In Response to Re: is this board too wet for my set:
    The fact that it is wet is good for you because it's more likely your going to to get the money in the middle - raise lots - get lots bet turn lots, get lots basically when you get action and you have this hand, bet as much as you can - pot size is good river is a fold but the river is not the problem here - your failure to notice the above is the problem
    Posted by rancid
    i completely misread the turn now i feel like i have a problem why are you being so harsh rancid. :-P. fwiw reading back.i agree fully. 
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