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Exit hand from tonights ME
Slykllist
Member Posts: 2,888
3 places from the cash bubble, is this standard or is there an arguement for folding pre flop to the 4-bet?
Post flop are the chips always going in here?
Post flop are the chips always going in here?
| Player | Action | Cards | Amount | Pot | Balance |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| MRBURNS4 | Small blind | 400.00 | 400.00 | 34040.75 | |
| GuardC4t | Big blind | 800.00 | 1200.00 | 31754.08 | |
| Your hole cards |
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| sammy550 | Fold | ||||
| sadsacuk77 | Fold | ||||
| edgeworth7 | Raise | 1600.00 | 2800.00 | 37450.16 | |
| Slykllist | Raise | 2600.00 | 5400.00 | 26457.00 | |
| MRBURNS4 | Fold | ||||
| GuardC4t | Raise | 4800.00 | 10200.00 | 26954.08 | |
| edgeworth7 | Fold | ||||
| Slykllist | Call | 3000.00 | 13200.00 | 23457.00 | |
| Flop | |||||
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| GuardC4t | Bet | 6400.00 | 19600.00 | 20554.08 | |
| Slykllist | All-in | 23457.00 | 43057.00 | 0.00 | |
| GuardC4t | Call | 17057.00 | 60114.00 | 3497.08 | |
| GuardC4t | Show |
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| Slykllist | Show |
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| Turn | |||||
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| River | |||||
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| GuardC4t | Win | Pair of Kings | 60114.00 | 63611.08 | |
Comments
Anyway, yes I think you should fold to the cold-4-bet. What range are you giving your opponent for this 4-bet? Unless you have reads to say otherwise, then generally you should assume that your opponent isn't cold-4-betting light and therefore you should assign them a premium range: AA, KK, QQ and AK. That entire range dominates AQ so there's no reason to continue in the hand. You know this, Slykllist.
On the flop, the question remains; What range are you giving your opponent for 4-betting pre-flop and c-betting the flop? The reasoning for calling pre-flop must be that you think he can be 4-betting light, so just call this c-bet. If he has nothing you want him to keep betting so flat and give him the chance to fire the turn. You're in position, so you don't need to worry about losing value considering one more bet sets him all-in.
It's almost certainly a fold pre-flop, though. If I think he's 4-betting wide, then I probably just 5-bet, given these stacks. You mention no such meta-game, though, and it would be very unusual.
Otherwise I agree with everything both you and Borin Loner said, although I might include JJ in his range.
Oh, and I had good reason for the small 3-bet sizing
I only post in here when I'm looking for advice on better lines to take in future.
Having discussed the hand here and elsewhere, I actually like a small 5-bet preflop from the button.
Out of interest.... given we've flatted a 4-bet pre (which I know is bad!), what do we think of flatting the flop bet here?
think 3 bet is fine
think a click back 5 bet is very bad, not folding out any of oppo cold 4 bet range - only going to be behind all the time unless oppo gets funky with JJ/10's - think your praying to god that oppo going to be light -
u don't mention that oppo has been very active so I assume oppo hasn't been, cold 4 bet close to bubble is what it is
3 bet fold pre, 3 bet bigger.
In the flop you are only getting called by better.
have to agree though calling will keep in worse Ax's
just depends doesn't it ?
It takes a while to work out the bluffers from the ones with monsters, but look out for this sort of tell
.....even just playing down the streets, all your chips would end up going in...only option here is the fold preflop to the 4 bet and make it through the bubble
Too many question remain unaswered, maybe readless it is just call the raise and play IP