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Call or fold in these 2 hands?

LARSON7LARSON7 Member Posts: 4,491
edited February 2013 in The Poker Clinic

Hand History #620331807 (15:36 09/02/2013)

PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
nosgoth05 Small blind  £0.02 £0.02 £4.00
jobyjsnr Big blind  £0.04 £0.06 £1.37
  Your hole cards
  • A
  • K
     
ronnieg197 Fold     
LARSON7 Raise  £0.16 £0.22 £4.10
ciderdart Raise  £0.40 £0.62 £3.73
nosgoth05 Fold     
jobyjsnr Fold     
LARSON7 Call  £0.24 £0.86 £3.86
Flop
   
  • K
  • 8
  • 10
     
LARSON7 Bet  £0.65 £1.51 £3.21
ciderdart All-in  £3.73

Comments

  • LARSON7LARSON7 Member Posts: 4,491
    edited February 2013

    Hand History #620337126 (15:52 09/02/2013)

    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    ronnieg197 Small blind  £0.02 £0.02 £5.50
    LARSON7 Big blind  £0.04 £0.06 £6.90
      Your hole cards
    • K
    • K
         
    bocky118 Fold     
    nosgoth05 Raise  £0.16 £0.22 £3.77
    jobyjsnr Call  £0.16 £0.38 £1.69
    Devonsturg Fold     
    ronnieg197 Fold     
    LARSON7 Raise  £0.48 £0.86 £6.42
    nosgoth05 Raise  £0.72 £1.58 £3.05
    jobyjsnr Fold     
    LARSON7 Call  £0.36 £1.94 £6.06
    Flop
       
    • 10
    • 8
    • 5
         
    LARSON7 Check     
    nosgoth05 All-in  £3.05
  • cenachavcenachav Member Posts: 2,682
    edited February 2013
    At NL4 I'm calling both.  However, I would think I'm behind on the first one.  If the villian has aces or a set on the 2nd one then it's a strange way of playing it
  • Lambert180Lambert180 Member Posts: 12,197
    edited February 2013
    I call both
  • bearlytherbearlyther Member Posts: 1,757
    edited February 2013
    Look to get both hands in pre dont flat.  As played snap them off.
  • LARSON7LARSON7 Member Posts: 4,491
    edited February 2013

    1st hand way its played out, it looks like he sitting with a monster.

    When he's all in i hate the spot, im thinking he hasnt re raised me with K q or worse. I'm thinking he has aces, or maybe its gonna be a chop.

    Could be a set of 10's, didnt think he would be going mental with pocket 8s pre flop. Im really hating the call but made it anyway, he had a set of Kings.

    2nd Hand, again i was putting him on maybe pocket aces pre flop. With me checking to him on flop and his all in looked weak. He had ace 10, Pocket Kings held.

  • craigcu12craigcu12 Member Posts: 3,960
    edited February 2013

    i am calling both anyday some people will shove just for the hope that you fold as the have missed i've did lots of hero calls myself on these tables due to such poor forms of bluffing by the villians.
    in the second hand why did you not go for the shove yourself preflop? you holding the second nuts so you should atleast made another bet of 4x

  • step7step7 Member Posts: 298
    edited February 2013
    In Response to Re: Call or fold in these 2 hands?:
    Look to get both hands in pre dont flat.
    Posted by bearlyther

    I like his line with AK - see flop, no need to go coin flipping here, dominated Kx and Ax paying us at NL4 if we pair.

    5 bet shoving KK is too heavy handed - and flalting the 4 bet worked out a treat here, nice work keeping his junk in!

    NL4 I calling both these so quick the mouse button in danger. Only specific reads on villain would make me do otherwise. Unlucky ur top pair up against top set, just chalk it up as a cooler - hope u noted the player up, playing set fast!

    "2nd Hand, again i was putting him on maybe pocket aces pre flop"
    Talk about seeing monsters under the bed. Villain won't always be at top of his range!
  • waynecwaynec Member Posts: 1,023
    edited February 2013
    Im calling both and if I see a set/2 pair so be it!
  • liamboi11liamboi11 Member Posts: 2,141
    edited February 2013
    call in both hands

    but me personally in both hands I 4bet pre trying to get money in there and then
  • DrSharpDrSharp Member Posts: 1,213
    edited February 2013
    Nothing wrong here although i cant see betsizing.

    NL4 its a call all day every day on both. 1st one its more of a sigh call, show me the AA please, i need to see it.

    2nd one, the only way i dont call is because i am still running around the room with my shirt over my head and my arms out and i get timed out. Id try get it in pre though.
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