nl4p/8p

craigcu12

i decided to try two of these tables this morning but things didn't go well and i lost 14.71 and 22.18 on the two i played on.
when i first went onto them i thought myself that maybe 3xbb would be enough to get people folding raggy Axo and suited hands such as 27s. but it appears to have been a mistake as i still got some bad callers.
i raise it to 32p and the villian with A10 calls on the flop he get the A but just waits for me to bet then calls and on the turn he still waits for me to be before calling then because he hits the 10 he shoves. just like what i see on a lot of te nl4p

ristop	Small blind		£0.04	£0.04	£9.93
gaspar1	Big blind		£0.08	£0.12	£15.59
	Your hole cards	K A
x	Call		£0.08	£0.20	£6.86
tarnished	Call		£0.08	£0.28	£6.28
craigcu12	Raise		£0.32	£0.60	£5.50
buggys	Fold
ristop	Fold
gaspar1	Fold
x	Call		£0.24	£0.84	£6.62
tarnished	Call		£0.24	£1.08	£6.04
Flop
		A 4 8
x	Check
tarnished	Check
craigcu12	Bet		£0.40	£1.48	£5.10
x	Call		£0.40	£1.88	£6.22
tarnished	Call		£0.40	£2.28	£5.64
Turn
		9
x	Check
tarnished	Check
craigcu12	Bet		£2.28	£4.56	£2.82
x	Call		£2.28	£6.84	£3.94
tarnished	Fold
River
		10
x	All-in		£3.94	£10.78	£0.00
craigcu12	All-in		£2.82	£13.60	£0.00
x	Unmatched bet		£1.12	£12.48	£1.12
x	Show	A 10
craigcu12	Show	K A
x	Win	Two Pairs, Aces and 10s	£11.54		£12.66

here i tried a 3xbb with QQ but the 92s doesn't fold preflop and sees his pair as a good hand making me regret doing a 3xbb preflop

craigcu12	Small blind		£0.04	£0.04	£5.38
gaspar1	Big blind		£0.08	£0.12	£7.88
	Your hole cards	Q Q
bobdadog	Fold
ncfcfan	Fold
craigcu12	Raise		£0.20	£0.32	£5.18
gaspar1	Call		£0.16	£0.48	£7.72
Flop
		10 2 J
craigcu12	Bet		£0.36	£0.84	£4.82
gaspar1	Call		£0.36	£1.20	£7.36
Turn
		5
craigcu12	Bet		£1.20	£2.40	£3.62
gaspar1	Call		£1.20	£3.60	£6.16
River
		9
craigcu12	Bet		£1.80	£5.40	£1.82
gaspar1	Call		£1.80	£7.20	£4.36
craigcu12	Show	Q Q
gaspar1	Show	2 9
gaspar1	Win	Two Pairs, 9s and 2s	£6.66		£11.02

is it a simular thing with all three micro stake size tables preflop?

rancid

If they are calling with these hands then you don't want them folding pre nor through the streets

you got ul -

2nd hand shove river

when you raise pre it's not to make them fold, it's because you have a hand and they have rubbish and they will call with rubbish - and yes 30% of the time you may lose - but 70% you will win

loololollo

wtf 2nd hand played awful why you potting the turn with a blank with such a good hand

craigcu12

In Response to Re: nl4p/8p:

wtf 2nd hand played awful why you potting the turn with a blank with such a good hand
Posted by loololollo

are you blind two diamonds and j 10 can you not see these flush and straight draws?
i don't wait for rivers before betting i get money in while they still chasing them draws

bearlyther

hand 1 bigger pre around 48p to compentate for limpers bet more on flop but dont full pot turn

hand 2  dont pot turn

offshoot

The fact his opponents are calling probably means he should continue potting turns and rivers.

The_Don90

I agree with offshoot there. 

At this level is basically Nl4 with double the buy in. Play it as such. Bet large when you have it, fold when you dont. 

In both the above hands though craig you bet small on the flop then pot turn. (ok hand 2 you bet better than hand 1 on the flop) 

Their calling with worse, just mash that pot button. Obviously you'll get outdrawn from time to time. Do a search for the donisms thread have a good lol at my expence and go back and win more money. 

loololollo

In Response to Re: nl4p/8p:

In Response to Re: nl4p/8p : are you blind two diamonds and j 10 can you not see these flush and straight draws? i don't wait for rivers before betting i get money in while they still chasing them draws
Posted by craigcu12

yeah so by the turn they are less likely to hit there draw just give them bad pot odds such as close to 3/4 pot 

craigcu12

In Response to Re: nl4p/8p:

In Response to Re: nl4p/8p : yeah so by the turn they are less likely to hit there draw just give them bad pot odds such as close to 3/4 pot 
Posted by loololollo

although it might be bad pot odds, most villians on these tables only have one thing in their mind- the gut shot flush straight draws and the chance of two pair.
when the villian in hand two has called a pot size bet with the weakest of pairs then i can't see many folding flush and straights with pot size bets.