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whats the best way to play pocket kings before the flop

mike2877mike2877 Member Posts: 2

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  • PKRParPKRPar Member Posts: 2,058
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 123,402
    edited April 11
    @mike2877

    The same as any other premium pair (J-J. Q-Q & A-A).

    Do NOT over-raise because "we don't want a call". We DO want a call. No point having a monster hand & just taking the blinds.

    There's an awful lot of nonsense talked about hands like Kings & Jacks ("I hate Jacks", "The Ace always comes when I have K-K") etc. Just play them strong & if we encounter a bad flop don't be afraid to fold.

    They are great hands, but they don't always win. The trick is to win the max & lose the minimum.

    And when we lose with them, just accept it like a grown-up, no need to make a song & dance about it. Throwing a baby-strop because our Kings get beat does not help & is very immature. A good poker player takes these minor setbacks in their stride. Poker is about the long-term, not individual hands.

    Good luck.
  • PKRParPKRPar Member Posts: 2,058
    Tikay10 said:

    @mike2877

    The same as any other premium pair (J-J. Q-Q & A-A).

    Do NOT over-raise because "we don't want a call". We DO want a call. No point having a monster hand & just taking the blinds.

    There's an awful lot of nonsense talked about hands like Kings & Jacks ("I hate Jacks", "The Ace always comes when I have K-K") etc. Just play them strong & if we encounter a bad flop don't be afraid to fold.

    They are great hands, but they don't always win. The trick is to win the max & lose the minimum.

    And when we lose with them, just accept it like a grown-up, no need to make a song & dance about it. Throwing a baby-strop because our Kings get beat does not help & is very immature. A good poker player takes these minor setbacks in their stride. Poker is about the long-term, not individual hands.

    Good luck.

    +1 to this :)
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 123,402

    The "problem" with these Premiums is that we are reluctant to fold, so we tend to lose big pots more than we should.

    If the flop comes bad, shrug your shoulders, make the fold, or at least slow down, & give yourself a pat on the back for losing the minimum.
  • kapowblamzkapowblamz Member Posts: 1,442
    before the flop


    The goal pre flop, with kings, is almost always to get in as much money as you possibly can, whilst keeping villain in the hand, so that you can extract more value on later streets with your ultra premium hand.

    Sometimes you might not even 3 bet (or 4 bet) , if villain always folds to that type of aggression, but generally you should do so because people have such a hard time folding to anything these days.

    Simply put, if you get KK, your goal is almost always to extract as much value as you can on every street, whilst not doing anything stupid.
  • DuesenbergDuesenberg Member Posts: 1,732
    I find this stuff a great help when playing KK...


  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 123,402

    before the flop


    The goal pre flop, with kings, is almost always to get in as much money as you possibly can, whilst keeping villain in the hand, so that you can extract more value on later streets with your ultra premium hand.

    Sometimes you might not even 3 bet (or 4 bet) , if villain always folds to that type of aggression, but generally you should do so because people have such a hard time folding to anything these days.

    Simply put, if you get KK, your goal is almost always to extract as much value as you can on every street, whilst not doing anything stupid.

    @mike2877


    There you go, great advice from the player who was 2nd in last night's Sunday Major.
  • kapowblamzkapowblamz Member Posts: 1,442
    2nd is so bitter sweet. Spent all morning shaking my head but if I busto early then I think nothing of it.
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 123,402

    2nd is so bitter sweet. Spent all morning shaking my head but if I busto early then I think nothing of it.

    @kapowblamz


    You should be used to it by now - by my reckoning that was the 4th time you've been 2nd in the Major. The win will be super sweet when it eventually comes.
  • kapowblamzkapowblamz Member Posts: 1,442
    Tikay10 said:

    You should be used to it by now - by my reckoning that was the 4th time you've been 2nd in the Major. The win will be super sweet when it eventually comes.

    FFS
  • NOSTRINOSTRI Member Posts: 1,433


    Fold pre.
  • TheEdge949TheEdge949 Member Posts: 3,707
    For me it depends on what game I'm playing.

    Mtt freezeout I'm raising any limps to about 60% of pot and pot raising any raise.

    Mtt Bouty Hunters I'm all in the bounty makes it more likely that worse will call

    Sng raising 70% of pot there's usually not enough play to get funky

    Dym Turbo all in no point messing about in high variance games

    Dym pot raise to call any shove

    I know that's very basic and leaves tons of value on the table but I find I lose more trying to get cute.
  • GervuscasGervuscas Member Posts: 54
    i fold it and wait for 69o
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