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Cheltenham 5 pound free bet

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  • lucy4lucy4 Member Posts: 8,449
    Just to confuse things a bit more, I've used my free £5 WH bet on this Place Treble.


  • waller02waller02 Member Posts: 9,130
    rabdeniro said:

    Paddies doin a fiver aswell.

    Only £1 for me 😞
  • lucy4lucy4 Member Posts: 8,449
    waller02 said:

    rabdeniro said:

    Paddies doin a fiver aswell.

    Only £1 for me 😞
    Nothing from PP or Sky for me... :/
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 174,602

    Several people have asked me to expand on the logic of how to best use a Free Bet. To be clear, this logic is not mine, it came from two very very shrewd punters, being "doooobs" & Neil Channing.



    "I don't think this is entirely correct. I don't think the answer concerning you don't get your stake back fully explains why taking a short price horse is so bad.

    Say you had a £50 free bet.

    If you back a 1/2 chance. Assume it has a 67% chance of winning, your expectated return is 0.67 x £25 = £16.67

    If you back a 3/1 chance. Assume it has a 25% chance of winning, your expected return is 0.25 x £150 = £37.50

    If you back a 10/1 chance. Assume it has a 9% chance of winning, your expected return is 0.09 x £500 = £45

    If you back a 50/1 chance. I think this is where the theory falls over. A lot of 50/1 chances are 80/1 or so on Betfair, so chance of winning is only 0.0125. So expected return =£2500 x0.0125 = £31.25, which is lower than the expected return on the 10/1 chance.

    I think the correct answer is use your free bet to back a horse that is over 10/1 that the bookie is offering very close to Betfair prices on.

    Do not back each way
  • Williams12Williams12 Member Posts: 216
    I did this tbh not so sure about it, a bit of an ugh whatever


  • GlenelgGlenelg Member Posts: 6,639
    edited March 10
    Tikay10 said:


    Several people have asked me to expand on the logic of how to best use a Free Bet. To be clear, this logic is not mine, it came from two very very shrewd punters, being "doooobs" & Neil Channing.



    "I don't think this is entirely correct. I don't think the answer concerning you don't get your stake back fully explains why taking a short price horse is so bad.

    Say you had a £50 free bet.

    If you back a 1/2 chance. Assume it has a 67% chance of winning, your expectated return is 0.67 x £25 = £16.67

    If you back a 3/1 chance. Assume it has a 25% chance of winning, your expected return is 0.25 x £150 = £37.50

    If you back a 10/1 chance. Assume it has a 9% chance of winning, your expected return is 0.09 x £500 = £45

    If you back a 50/1 chance. I think this is where the theory falls over. A lot of 50/1 chances are 80/1 or so on Betfair, so chance of winning is only 0.0125. So expected return =£2500 x0.0125 = £31.25, which is lower than the expected return on the 10/1 chance.

    I think the correct answer is use your free bet to back a horse that is over 10/1 that the bookie is offering very close to Betfair prices on.

    Do not back each way

    @Tikay10 Not an expert by any means on the gee gees but if ive got a free bet of £10, (which i have) And i decide to put it on a nag @ 10\1 & above..its def gonna be each way.
    Btw good to see you're home safe & sound after another stellar\tiring weekend...kudos
  • Williams12Williams12 Member Posts: 216
    Tikay10 said:


    Several people have asked me to expand on the logic of how to best use a Free Bet. To be clear, this logic is not mine, it came from two very very shrewd punters, being "doooobs" & Neil Channing.



    "I don't think this is entirely correct. I don't think the answer concerning you don't get your stake back fully explains why taking a short price horse is so bad.

    Say you had a £50 free bet.

    If you back a 1/2 chance. Assume it has a 67% chance of winning, your expectated return is 0.67 x £25 = £16.67

    If you back a 3/1 chance. Assume it has a 25% chance of winning, your expected return is 0.25 x £150 = £37.50

    If you back a 10/1 chance. Assume it has a 9% chance of winning, your expected return is 0.09 x £500 = £45

    If you back a 50/1 chance. I think this is where the theory falls over. A lot of 50/1 chances are 80/1 or so on Betfair, so chance of winning is only 0.0125. So expected return =£2500 x0.0125 = £31.25, which is lower than the expected return on the 10/1 chance.

    I think the correct answer is use your free bet to back a horse that is over 10/1 that the bookie is offering very close to Betfair prices on.

    Do not back each way

    People look at it just as a purely math thing? Where does the sport analytics come into it
  • rabdenirorabdeniro Member Posts: 4,527
    Ma 3 x £5 free bets -

    Joyeuse 11/1
    Rock My Way 33/1
    L'eau Du Sud 5/1
  • lucy4lucy4 Member Posts: 8,449
    lucy4 said:

    Just to confuse things a bit more, I've used my free £5 WH bet on this Place Treble.


    If only I'd used the free £5 bet on this one instead of a free £1 bet, but can't complain about free money :)

  • Williams12Williams12 Member Posts: 216
    I feel like sky is toying with us they just gave another 5 free bet they know we are clueless and will lose it
  • mumsiemumsie Member Posts: 8,358
    I got this through WhatsApp.

    Pinch of salt to be applied obviously.


  • mumsiemumsie Member Posts: 8,358
    Found somewhere to park my free bet.


  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 174,602


    Nick Skeleton, lol


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