Can quite understand why the PM is trying to avoid giving any opinion in relation to the Transgender ruling. Simply because anything anyone says is immediately seized on by the other side, and debate is replaced by vitriol.
So. Here is my take in the ruling.
I believe the ruling is one of the worst decisions in the history of the English Legal system. Where a genuine opportunity to provide a sensible way forward has been replaced by bigotry.
The "For Women" campaigners fall into 2 main camps. Those who feel threatened by Transgender people (almost exclusively transgender women). And those who have a misguided opinion as to what actually genuinely helps people in "single sex" spaces.
What should (IMHO) have happened is this. People who have undertaken chemical and operative changes to change gender should be recognised in their new gender. And those who have not, and are only part way through the process or are just preferring to be known as a different gender from their birth gender should have to stick to their birth gender for this purpose. How difficult is that?
This "triumph" for "women's" rights is no such thing. All this judgment has achieved is that people who were born men and now identify as women can not use women's spaces. Which sounds fine. Until you consider the opposite side of that coin. It now means that all people who were born women must use women-only spaces. Which will include post-op Trans Men. Complete with Beards and Penises. And someone born a man but now dresses as a Woman and has a Vagina must use male-only changing rooms. That is progress?
Then consider the effect on modern life. For example, British Transport Police have announced that, from now on, all Trans Men will be searched by women, and vice versa. So-for example-a Trans Woman with female genitalia can be intimately strip-searched by a man. With no woman present.
Can quite understand why the PM is trying to avoid giving any opinion in relation to the Transgender ruling. Simply because anything anyone says is immediately seized on by the other side, and debate is replaced by vitriol.
So. Here is my take in the ruling.
I believe the ruling is one of the worst decisions in the history of the English Legal system. Where a genuine opportunity to provide a sensible way forward has been replaced by bigotry.
The "For Women" campaigners fall into 2 main camps. Those who feel threatened by Transgender people (almost exclusively transgender women). And those who have a misguided opinion as to what actually genuinely helps people in "single sex" spaces.
What should (IMHO) have happened is this. People who have undertaken chemical and operative changes to change gender should be recognised in their new gender. And those who have not, and are only part way through the process or are just preferring to be known as a different gender from their birth gender should have to stick to their birth gender for this purpose. How difficult is that?
This "triumph" for "women's" rights is no such thing. All this judgment has achieved is that people who were born men and now identify as women can not use women's spaces. Which sounds fine. Until you consider the opposite side of that coin. It now means that all people who were born women must use women-only spaces. Which will include post-op Trans Men. Complete with Beards and Penises. And someone born a man but now dresses as a Woman and has a Vagina must use male-only changing rooms. That is progress?
Then consider the effect on modern life. For example, British Transport Police have announced that, from now on, all Trans Men will be searched by women, and vice versa. So-for example-a Trans Woman with female genitalia can be intimately strip-searched by a man. With no woman present.
It is just a recipe for persecution.
This ruling was supposed to have provided clarity. I watched the Sky News Press Preview, subsequent to the announcement, and the two journalists spent ten minutes at loggerheads over the clarity that in their opinion it had brought.
I implore everyone to read the "Comments" which suggest our education system, or maybe just society, has failed.... So much hatred & ignorance, where is the balanced thinking? I've got no flag to fly for Sir Keir, but he has to be better than all the conniving, corruption & incompetence from Bojo, Truss & Sunak, surely? People just seem to love a pile-on & follow the herd.
The comments kept me amused for ages. How about this for a sample....
"1,000s of illegal emigrants living in luxury. Starmer is a total disgrace."
"Methinks its time for another national referendum. "" Britain to leave this Labour Government immediately. "" I bet it would be an even bigger majority this time."
Some sense of sanity was restored after I noted that several people on the thread asked where this alleged Video was & when would it be aired, especially as the rumours have been doing the rounds for many months now.
Can quite understand why the PM is trying to avoid giving any opinion in relation to the Transgender ruling. Simply because anything anyone says is immediately seized on by the other side, and debate is replaced by vitriol.
So. Here is my take in the ruling.
I believe the ruling is one of the worst decisions in the history of the English Legal system. Where a genuine opportunity to provide a sensible way forward has been replaced by bigotry.
The "For Women" campaigners fall into 2 main camps. Those who feel threatened by Transgender people (almost exclusively transgender women). And those who have a misguided opinion as to what actually genuinely helps people in "single sex" spaces.
What should (IMHO) have happened is this. People who have undertaken chemical and operative changes to change gender should be recognised in their new gender. And those who have not, and are only part way through the process or are just preferring to be known as a different gender from their birth gender should have to stick to their birth gender for this purpose. How difficult is that?
This "triumph" for "women's" rights is no such thing. All this judgment has achieved is that people who were born men and now identify as women can not use women's spaces. Which sounds fine. Until you consider the opposite side of that coin. It now means that all people who were born women must use women-only spaces. Which will include post-op Trans Men. Complete with Beards and Penises. And someone born a man but now dresses as a Woman and has a Vagina must use male-only changing rooms. That is progress?
Then consider the effect on modern life. For example, British Transport Police have announced that, from now on, all Trans Men will be searched by women, and vice versa. So-for example-a Trans Woman with female genitalia can be intimately strip-searched by a man. With no woman present.
It is just a recipe for persecution.
My simple take on this; If you are born with a **** you go to womens toilets. If you have transitioned to a woman and now have a **** you go to womens toilets. If you are born with a willy you go to mens toilets. If you have transitioned to a man and now have a willy you go to mens toilets. If you are inbetween you go to the toilets man/woman whichever bits you were born with. If you dress up as a woman and have a willy you go to mens toilets. If you dress up as a man and have a **** you got to womens toilets.
Not sure that's much of a bargaining chip. How many cars does the UK import from the USA each year? It was just 18,000 in 2023, which is barely meaningful, & compares with over 100,000 we export to the USA.
Not sure that's much of a bargaining chip. How many cars does the UK import from the USA each year? It was just 18,000 in 2023, which is barely meaningful, & compares with over 100,000 we export to the USA.
Who knows how Trump will react. Perhaps he will insist that we drive on the other side of the road. It is hard to see the point of a 2.5% tariff. You would think that US factories having to produce a small number of right hand drive cars would be more hassle than the worth of it.
Not sure that's much of a bargaining chip. How many cars does the UK import from the USA each year? It was just 18,000 in 2023, which is barely meaningful, & compares with over 100,000 we export to the USA.
Who knows how Trump will react. Perhaps he will insist that we drive on the other side of the road. It is hard to see the point of a 2.5% tariff. You would think that US factories having to produce a small number of right hand drive cars would be more hassle than the worth of it.
In America, it would be.
Which is, of course, why the volume US car manufacturers, like Ford, make them in the UK...
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So. Here is my take in the ruling.
I believe the ruling is one of the worst decisions in the history of the English Legal system. Where a genuine opportunity to provide a sensible way forward has been replaced by bigotry.
The "For Women" campaigners fall into 2 main camps. Those who feel threatened by Transgender people (almost exclusively transgender women). And those who have a misguided opinion as to what actually genuinely helps people in "single sex" spaces.
What should (IMHO) have happened is this. People who have undertaken chemical and operative changes to change gender should be recognised in their new gender. And those who have not, and are only part way through the process or are just preferring to be known as a different gender from their birth gender should have to stick to their birth gender for this purpose. How difficult is that?
This "triumph" for "women's" rights is no such thing. All this judgment has achieved is that people who were born men and now identify as women can not use women's spaces. Which sounds fine. Until you consider the opposite side of that coin. It now means that all people who were born women must use women-only spaces. Which will include post-op Trans Men. Complete with Beards and Penises. And someone born a man but now dresses as a Woman and has a Vagina must use male-only changing rooms. That is progress?
Then consider the effect on modern life. For example, British Transport Police have announced that, from now on, all Trans Men will be searched by women, and vice versa. So-for example-a Trans Woman with female genitalia can be intimately strip-searched by a man. With no woman present.
It is just a recipe for persecution.
I watched the Sky News Press Preview, subsequent to the announcement, and the two journalists spent ten minutes at loggerheads over the clarity that in their opinion it had brought.
@lucy4
Interestingly, that Tweet has been deleted & no longer exists.
However, I did a bit of googling, & came up with this. (No need to watch it, that's not my point...).
I implore everyone to read the "Comments" which suggest our education system, or maybe just society, has failed.... So much hatred & ignorance, where is the balanced thinking? I've got no flag to fly for Sir Keir, but he has to be better than all the conniving, corruption & incompetence from Bojo, Truss & Sunak, surely? People just seem to love a pile-on & follow the herd.
The comments kept me amused for ages. How about this for a sample....
"1,000s of illegal emigrants living in luxury. Starmer is a total disgrace."
I mean, where do you begin with that purler?
And trust me, if anyone thinks living in a Britannia Hotel room is "luxury", you've got a shock coming...
Quite enjoyed this beauty too....
"Methinks its time for another national referendum. "" Britain to leave this Labour Government immediately. ""
I bet it would be an even bigger majority this time."
Some sense of sanity was restored after I noted that several people on the thread asked where this alleged Video was & when would it be aired, especially as the rumours have been doing the rounds for many months now.
Not one person replied.
Ha, some of those comments are pure gold....
No photographic evidence so just here say at the moment
I think this post sums it up quite well...
The CCTV footage has finally dropped.
https://x.com/JimFergusonUK/status/1914192460412002804
If you are born with a **** you go to womens toilets.
If you have transitioned to a woman and now have a **** you go to womens toilets.
If you are born with a willy you go to mens toilets.
If you have transitioned to a man and now have a willy you go to mens toilets.
If you are inbetween you go to the toilets man/woman whichever bits you were born with.
If you dress up as a woman and have a willy you go to mens toilets.
If you dress up as a man and have a **** you got to womens toilets.
Well, if proof were needed......
Reeves to cut tariffs on imported cars from USA?
Not sure that's much of a bargaining chip. How many cars does the UK import from the USA each year? It was just 18,000 in 2023, which is barely meaningful, & compares with over 100,000 we export to the USA.
Perhaps he will insist that we drive on the other side of the road.
It is hard to see the point of a 2.5% tariff.
You would think that US factories having to produce a small number of right hand drive cars would be more hassle than the worth of it.
Which is, of course, why the volume US car manufacturers, like Ford, make them in the UK...