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Thoughts Please

tomgooduntomgoodun Member Posts: 3,726
edited December 2021 in Strategy
Thoughts on this hand in the £2 deep stack last night
I'm 18/25 with 20 paid,blinds 300-600 ( as far as I can remember) I have 23k chips in cut off
Utg shoves 20k folded to me, there are 2 players in the blinds that cover me, I have QQ
What's your play and why please.
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    mattprawnmattprawn Member Posts: 632
    edited January 2017
    Hi Tom

    I'm going to have first go at this, before I'm influenced by better players posts.

    You need to be winning / or at least FT MTT's to be profitable long term.  Min cashes just postpone the inevitable.

    So, I want to win this and am shoving most times,  Looking through my fingers as I see his cards, but shoving nonetheless.

    Only caveat to this is player read.  Without any knowledge I'd see a shove UTG as a hand that doesn't really want calling, but could live with it.  Small to medium pairs or AK/AQ/AJ/A10.  Happy to have a race against any of these.  Only two hands that I wouldn't call face up (AA /KK) so happy to take the race.


    Best

    Matt
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    Lambert180Lambert180 Member Posts: 12,197
    edited January 2017
    Snap rejam, I'd be very surprised to see someone open shove so many BBs with KK+ (although it will happen occasionally) so yeah just an easy rejam and either win a flip v AK or hold against a hand we crush 
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    tomgooduntomgoodun Member Posts: 3,726
    edited January 2017
    In Response to Re: Thoughts Please:
    Hi Tom I'm going to have first go at this, before I'm influenced by better players posts. You need to be winning / or at least FT MTT's to be profitable long term.  Min cashes just postpone the inevitable. So, I want to win this and am shoving most times,  Looking through my fingers as I see his cards, but shoving nonetheless. Only caveat to this is player read.  Without any knowledge I'd see a shove UTG as a hand that doesn't really want calling, but could live with it.  Small to medium pairs or AK/AQ/AJ/A10.  Happy to have a race against any of these.  Only two hands that I would call face up (AA /KK) so happy to take the race. Best Matt
    Posted by mattprawn
    Thanks Matt
    I will keep you on tenterhooks for a day or so - see if anyone else has any thoughts on this
    Appreciate the reasoned answer.
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    tomgooduntomgoodun Member Posts: 3,726
    edited January 2017
    In Response to Re: Thoughts Please:
    Snap rejam, I'd be very surprised to see someone open shove so many BBs with KK+ (although it will happen occasionally) so yeah just an easy rejam and either win a flip v AK or hold against a hand we crush 
    Posted by Lambert180
    Thanks Paul, appreciate you taking the time to post..
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    Jac35Jac35 Member Posts: 6,477
    edited January 2017
    What Lambert said

    Never ever thought I would say that
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    tomgooduntomgoodun Member Posts: 3,726
    edited January 2017
    Thanks chaps
    As Matt pointed out making FT is pretty much the goal rather than min cash after playing 3/4 hours.
    I didn't take long in my decision to jam
    Oppo had AJ
    A on the flop sealed my fate, shoved the rest of my chips in with 10's next hand, same bloke called with K rag, K flop and out we go, thems the breaks :)
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    mumsiemumsie Member Posts: 7,350
    edited January 2017
    bad beat story?
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    MattBatesMattBates Member Posts: 4,118
    edited January 2017
    I am always going with this, just an unlucky run out.
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    tomgooduntomgoodun Member Posts: 3,726
    edited January 2017
    In Response to Re: Thoughts Please:
    bad beat story?
    Posted by mumsie
    Haha, nope - A I am happy to take a flip with a decent hand story :)
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    tomgooduntomgoodun Member Posts: 3,726
    edited January 2017
    In Response to Re: Thoughts Please:
    I am always going with this, just an unlucky run out.
    Posted by MattBates
    So what you are saying is - I played it exactly the same as you would have :) could my weekend get any better.
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    MattBatesMattBates Member Posts: 4,118
    edited January 2017
    In Response to Re: Thoughts Please:
    In Response to Re: Thoughts Please : So what you are saying is - I played it exactly the same as you would have :) could my weekend get any better.
    Posted by tomgoodun
    Played the same????   You really think I wouldn't of won that hand?
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    tomgooduntomgoodun Member Posts: 3,726
    edited January 2017
    In Response to Re: Thoughts Please:
    In Response to Re: Thoughts Please : Played the same????   You really think I wouldn't of won that hand?
    Posted by MattBates
    Ha, that would never be in doubt :)
    Have not of ;)
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